Powers & Abilities Sanji most likely has CoC too
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Lol, some of you guys need to stop acting like you got this shit all figured out.
Oden can't have CoC because he danced naked in the streets of Wano for over a year.
Roger can't have CoC cause he bowed his head to Whitebeard and begged him to allow Oden to sail with him.
Whitebeard can't have CoC because he willingly gave up a crew member to an enemy.
Shanks can't have CoC because an 8 million belli Mountain bandit smashed a bottle of alcohol over his head, and embarrassed him.
Big Mom can't have CoC because she's been getting trolled left and right by characters far weaker than her.
Like I've said before in other threads, its a 50/50 chance that Sanji will get it, and Usopp is all but a shoo-in to get it because of his lie. Narratively it makes sense because Luffy is meant to be a King of Kings. The Greatest Pirate Captain, with the greatest crew. Don't get it twisted just because Oda has been putting so much focus on secondary characters for so long. It was a necessary action to prepare for what's currently going on in the story, and for what's to come at EoS. But after Wano things will shift back to just the Straw Hats for awhile, because the inevitable meeting between The Straw Hats Pirates and Red Haired Pirates is not going to be riddled with secondary characters. This is where Luffy is meant to prove to Shanks that he gathered a great crew, and became a great Pirate. And that's the key phrasing here. Gather a great Crew. If Sanji or Usopp don't unlock CoC, that's completely fine, but stop acting like it's out of the realm of possibilities.
Oden can't have CoC because he danced naked in the streets of Wano for over a year.
Roger can't have CoC cause he bowed his head to Whitebeard and begged him to allow Oden to sail with him.
Whitebeard can't have CoC because he willingly gave up a crew member to an enemy.
Shanks can't have CoC because an 8 million belli Mountain bandit smashed a bottle of alcohol over his head, and embarrassed him.
Big Mom can't have CoC because she's been getting trolled left and right by characters far weaker than her.
Like I've said before in other threads, its a 50/50 chance that Sanji will get it, and Usopp is all but a shoo-in to get it because of his lie. Narratively it makes sense because Luffy is meant to be a King of Kings. The Greatest Pirate Captain, with the greatest crew. Don't get it twisted just because Oda has been putting so much focus on secondary characters for so long. It was a necessary action to prepare for what's currently going on in the story, and for what's to come at EoS. But after Wano things will shift back to just the Straw Hats for awhile, because the inevitable meeting between The Straw Hats Pirates and Red Haired Pirates is not going to be riddled with secondary characters. This is where Luffy is meant to prove to Shanks that he gathered a great crew, and became a great Pirate. And that's the key phrasing here. Gather a great Crew. If Sanji or Usopp don't unlock CoC, that's completely fine, but stop acting like it's out of the realm of possibilities.
When would Sanji unlock it?
With Zoro, it was a case for me that if he didn’t unlock it on Wano, he never would- but I was sure he would. Because of how close this arc is to the end of One Piece, and how big it was built up to be for him, it being the samurai arc and him being the Strawhat samurai, it made sense that this would be the arc where Zoro was confirmed a CoC user. Any later I thiught would be a put pointless because there wouldn’t be enough time to really show him using it in combat.
Woth Usopp, you can similarly guess that he’ll get it on Elbaf because that’s been built up for years as his arc. It can be a tangible sign that he is finally a brave man of the sea and has achieved his dream, because otherwise his dream is uniquely vague in that there’s no real moment that can prove he’s achieved it, unlike the others. CoC could be that proof.
Now, Usopp won’t be using CoC in combat, it’ll just be the basic use of making people faint we’ve seen up until now, so him unlocking it relatively late doesn’t really matter.
But when for Sanji? There’s no reason to think he’ll unlock it on Wano. There’s no big plotline setup for him on Elbaf. His big arc was WCI, which has came and gone with nary a sight of CoC. The only moment that stands out and has been built up for Sanji in the future is All Blue, and there’s little reason to connect that with being a CoC user.
It’s not impossible for Sanji to unlock it, but I think if it does come it’ll be too late in the series for it to really mean all that much. We’re talking really about Sanji getting it in his very last fight in the series, given how paltry the fights have been post-skip and Oda’s stated goal of getting the series done as quickly as he can. I don’t have much reason to think that Elbaf will be a big fighting arc where every Strawhat shows off against a strong opponent like we’re getting on Wano, for example. There’s only really the final war left in my view for a Alabasta/CP9/Dressrosa/Wano style fighting arc
With Zoro, it was a case for me that if he didn’t unlock it on Wano, he never would- but I was sure he would. Because of how close this arc is to the end of One Piece, and how big it was built up to be for him, it being the samurai arc and him being the Strawhat samurai, it made sense that this would be the arc where Zoro was confirmed a CoC user. Any later I thiught would be a put pointless because there wouldn’t be enough time to really show him using it in combat.
Woth Usopp, you can similarly guess that he’ll get it on Elbaf because that’s been built up for years as his arc. It can be a tangible sign that he is finally a brave man of the sea and has achieved his dream, because otherwise his dream is uniquely vague in that there’s no real moment that can prove he’s achieved it, unlike the others. CoC could be that proof.
Now, Usopp won’t be using CoC in combat, it’ll just be the basic use of making people faint we’ve seen up until now, so him unlocking it relatively late doesn’t really matter.
But when for Sanji? There’s no reason to think he’ll unlock it on Wano. There’s no big plotline setup for him on Elbaf. His big arc was WCI, which has came and gone with nary a sight of CoC. The only moment that stands out and has been built up for Sanji in the future is All Blue, and there’s little reason to connect that with being a CoC user.
It’s not impossible for Sanji to unlock it, but I think if it does come it’ll be too late in the series for it to really mean all that much. We’re talking really about Sanji getting it in his very last fight in the series, given how paltry the fights have been post-skip and Oda’s stated goal of getting the series done as quickly as he can. I don’t have much reason to think that Elbaf will be a big fighting arc where every Strawhat shows off against a strong opponent like we’re getting on Wano, for example. There’s only really the final war left in my view for a Alabasta/CP9/Dressrosa/Wano style fighting arc
Mihawk might have CoC or at least should know about what Kaido is talking about since he used to fight Shanks. At this point if Mihawk acts surprised due to that would be weird. Also, it could be a plot hole too if Zoro used Asura during his training but Mihawk did not mention anything about CoC even though his rival was shanks.
Oda obviously wouldn't let him unlock it before Zoro.
But that's not the argument here, is it? The guy is not even a Sanji fan, lol. Just try to read the thread before commenting on it and sounding like an idiot.
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Yes. Ofc. Now that Zoro has been confirmed to have CoC. The Bootleg Yellow Haired Zoro will also get CoC. Cuz that's one of the primary rules of One Piece;When Z= X, S=X. 
It was pretty much a given that Sanji will not be revealed as a CoC user before Zoro, as much as Zoro was not revealed as one before Luffy.
I don't think anyone would question that as far as overall Haki/Ambition goes, just as is the case with overall strength, Zoro would stand above Sanji, and thus Oda would showcase his awakening first.
There's also the fact that Zoro is almost 4 months older than Sanji, so all things equal it would still make sense for his achievements to take precedence ? Though this is less of an argument.
I think the SH's who will get CoC are the one's who walked into Wano with their Haki already awakened, so that's Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Usopp. I also expect the order in which they get CoC to account for how early they awakened their Haki. So you have :
Luffy with CoC, CoA, CoO already confirmed as soon as the time skip started.
Zoro and Sanji with CoA and CoO when the time skip started, and Zoro just getting his CoC confirmed in Wano.
Usopp as the only other SH to awaken his Haki during the time skip up to this point.
Given this pattern i expect Sanji to be next in line after Zoro to get his CoC confirmed. As for when, it could still be in Wano to go hand in hand with the above pattern where in Sabaody Zoro and Sanji were confirmed with both CoA and CoO. It could be then that in the same arc they also get confirmed with CoC.
CoC clearly plays a significant role this arc, being revealed as the required tool to defeat Kaido, as well as something Kaido talked about on more than one occasion, where he said that there should not be too many Conquerors, with this mentality likely sterning from his past days as a member of the Rocks Pirates.
It's interesting that Kaido's way of handling this issue is to crush the will of the Conquerors he meets, and attempt to force them to join his crew. We've seen him trying and failing to do that with Kidd and Luffy, but i'd not be surprised if we end up seeing examples of Conquerors who's will he managed to crush in the past and force into submission.
Here King and Queen could come into the picture. I'd not be surprise if their Royal monickers also serve as a clue to indicate that they are CoC users, the one's that Kaido managed to force submit to him.
We've seen Queen's reaction to CoC and how he laughed it off when Luffy used it as if it's no big deal, not even giving his now trademark shocked Pikachu face. It's also interesting that Queen is basically the one tasked with crushing Kidd's and Luffy's wills in Udon.
We've also seen a big distinction between the way King and Queen act towards each other, and the way they act towards Jack and Jack acts towards them.
And this could serve as a clue as well because of how they stand up to eachother as fellow CoC users, while they dominate Jack who lacks CoC.
Oda could then use this as a paralel for the different means Luffy and Kaido managed to get such individuals to follow them and solved the Rocks dilema where they were fighting eachother all the time, and the purpose of this paralel could be to show why Luffy's way is the right way, and what benefits there are with Luffy supporting the ambition of the CoC users that chose to follow him.
If this is the case, Sanji's CoC could be revealed in his fight with Queen, the moment the two get to the point where they have a CoC clash as we've seen with Luffy and Doflamingo for example back in Dressrosa
If not in Wano, then my next best guess would maybe be the Vegapunk arc. Then the experiments Judge did on his kids could be brought back to discussion, and the narrative could be that Sanji being a failed experiment is what saved the lineage of potential Conquerors that has it's roots in their ancestors who at one point Conquered the whole North Blue. This could also give even more weight to Sora's actions as the one who made this possible.
Sanji could be framed as the true inheritor of their will, and the one who pushes Germa back to the right path that Judge had strayed from, which caused him to miss the chance of awakening CoC. Something about believing in yourself vs thinking you need to change yourself and make experiments to create better versions of yourself to achieve your goals would probably be what Oda goes with.
I don't think anyone would question that as far as overall Haki/Ambition goes, just as is the case with overall strength, Zoro would stand above Sanji, and thus Oda would showcase his awakening first.
There's also the fact that Zoro is almost 4 months older than Sanji, so all things equal it would still make sense for his achievements to take precedence ? Though this is less of an argument.
I think the SH's who will get CoC are the one's who walked into Wano with their Haki already awakened, so that's Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Usopp. I also expect the order in which they get CoC to account for how early they awakened their Haki. So you have :
Luffy with CoC, CoA, CoO already confirmed as soon as the time skip started.
Zoro and Sanji with CoA and CoO when the time skip started, and Zoro just getting his CoC confirmed in Wano.
Usopp as the only other SH to awaken his Haki during the time skip up to this point.
Given this pattern i expect Sanji to be next in line after Zoro to get his CoC confirmed. As for when, it could still be in Wano to go hand in hand with the above pattern where in Sabaody Zoro and Sanji were confirmed with both CoA and CoO. It could be then that in the same arc they also get confirmed with CoC.
CoC clearly plays a significant role this arc, being revealed as the required tool to defeat Kaido, as well as something Kaido talked about on more than one occasion, where he said that there should not be too many Conquerors, with this mentality likely sterning from his past days as a member of the Rocks Pirates.
It's interesting that Kaido's way of handling this issue is to crush the will of the Conquerors he meets, and attempt to force them to join his crew. We've seen him trying and failing to do that with Kidd and Luffy, but i'd not be surprised if we end up seeing examples of Conquerors who's will he managed to crush in the past and force into submission.
Here King and Queen could come into the picture. I'd not be surprise if their Royal monickers also serve as a clue to indicate that they are CoC users, the one's that Kaido managed to force submit to him.
We've seen Queen's reaction to CoC and how he laughed it off when Luffy used it as if it's no big deal, not even giving his now trademark shocked Pikachu face. It's also interesting that Queen is basically the one tasked with crushing Kidd's and Luffy's wills in Udon.
We've also seen a big distinction between the way King and Queen act towards each other, and the way they act towards Jack and Jack acts towards them.
And this could serve as a clue as well because of how they stand up to eachother as fellow CoC users, while they dominate Jack who lacks CoC.
Oda could then use this as a paralel for the different means Luffy and Kaido managed to get such individuals to follow them and solved the Rocks dilema where they were fighting eachother all the time, and the purpose of this paralel could be to show why Luffy's way is the right way, and what benefits there are with Luffy supporting the ambition of the CoC users that chose to follow him.
If this is the case, Sanji's CoC could be revealed in his fight with Queen, the moment the two get to the point where they have a CoC clash as we've seen with Luffy and Doflamingo for example back in Dressrosa
If not in Wano, then my next best guess would maybe be the Vegapunk arc. Then the experiments Judge did on his kids could be brought back to discussion, and the narrative could be that Sanji being a failed experiment is what saved the lineage of potential Conquerors that has it's roots in their ancestors who at one point Conquered the whole North Blue. This could also give even more weight to Sora's actions as the one who made this possible.
Sanji could be framed as the true inheritor of their will, and the one who pushes Germa back to the right path that Judge had strayed from, which caused him to miss the chance of awakening CoC. Something about believing in yourself vs thinking you need to change yourself and make experiments to create better versions of yourself to achieve your goals would probably be what Oda goes with.
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It was pretty much a given that Sanji will not be revealed as a CoC user before Zoro, as much as Zoro was not revealed as one before Luffy.
I don't think anyone would question that as far as overall Haki/Ambition goes, just as is the case with overall strength, Zoro would stand above Sanji, and thus Oda would showcase his awakening first.
There's also the fact that Zoro is almost 4 months older than Sanji, so all things equal it would still make sense for his achievements to take precedence ? Though this is less of an argument.
I think the SH's who will get CoC are the one's who walked into Wano with their Haki already awakened, so that's Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Usopp. I also expect the order in which they get CoC to account for how early they awakened their Haki. So you have :
Luffy with CoC, CoA, CoO already confirmed as soon as the time skip started.
Zoro and Sanji with CoA and CoO when the time skip started, and Zoro just getting his CoC confirmed in Wano.
Usopp as the only other SH to awaken his Haki during the time skip up to this point.
Given this pattern i expect Sanji to be next in line after Zoro to get his CoC confirmed. As for when, it could still be in Wano to go hand in hand with the above pattern where in Sabaody Zoro and Sanji were confirmed with both CoA and CoO. It could be then that in the same arc they also get confirmed with CoC.
CoC clearly plays a significant role this arc, being revealed as the required tool to defeat Kaido, as well as something Kaido talked about on more than one occasion, where he said that there should not be too many Conquerors, with this mentality likely sterning from his past days as a member of the Rocks Pirates.
It's interesting that Kaido's way of handling this issue is to crush the will of the Conquerors he meets, and attempt to force them to join his crew. We've seen him trying and failing to do that with Kidd and Luffy, but i'd not be surprised if we end up seeing examples of Conquerors who's will he managed to crush in the past and force into submission.
Here King and Queen could come into the picture. I'd not be surprise if their Royal monickers also serve as a clue to indicate that they are CoC users, the one's that Kaido managed to force submit to him.
We've seen Queen's reaction to CoC and how he laughed it off when Luffy used it as if it's no big deal, not even giving his now trademark shocked Pikachu face.
We've also seen a big distinction between the way King and Queen act towards each other, and the way they act towards Jack and Jack acts towards them.
And this could serve as a clue as well because of how they stand up to eachother as fellow CoC users, while they dominate Jack who lacks CoC.
Oda could then use this as a paralel for the different means Luffy and Kaido managed to get such individuals to follow them and solved the Rocks dilema where they were fighting eachother all the time, and the purpose of this paralel could be to show why Luffy's way is the right way, and what benefits there are with Luffy supporting the ambition of the CoC users that chose to follow him.
If this is the case, Sanji's CoC could be revealed in his fight with Queen, the moment the two get to the point where they have a CoC clash as we've seen with Luffy and Doflamingo for example back in Dressrosa
If not in Wano, then my next best guess would maybe be the Vegapunk arc. Then the experiments Judge did on his kids could be brought back to discussion, and the narrative could be that Sanji being a failed experiment is what saved the lineage of potential Conquerors that has it's roots in their ancestors who at one point Conquered the whole North Blue. This could also give even more weight to Sora's actions as the one who made this possible.
Sanji could be framed as the true inheritor of their will, and the one who pushes Germa back to the right path that Judge had strayed from, which caused him to miss the chance of awakening CoC. Something about believing in yourself vs thinking you need to change yourself and make experiments to create better versions of yourself to achieve your goals would probably be what Oda goes with.
I don't think anyone would question that as far as overall Haki/Ambition goes, just as is the case with overall strength, Zoro would stand above Sanji, and thus Oda would showcase his awakening first.
There's also the fact that Zoro is almost 4 months older than Sanji, so all things equal it would still make sense for his achievements to take precedence ? Though this is less of an argument.
I think the SH's who will get CoC are the one's who walked into Wano with their Haki already awakened, so that's Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Usopp. I also expect the order in which they get CoC to account for how early they awakened their Haki. So you have :
Luffy with CoC, CoA, CoO already confirmed as soon as the time skip started.
Zoro and Sanji with CoA and CoO when the time skip started, and Zoro just getting his CoC confirmed in Wano.
Usopp as the only other SH to awaken his Haki during the time skip up to this point.
Given this pattern i expect Sanji to be next in line after Zoro to get his CoC confirmed. As for when, it could still be in Wano to go hand in hand with the above pattern where in Sabaody Zoro and Sanji were confirmed with both CoA and CoO. It could be then that in the same arc they also get confirmed with CoC.
CoC clearly plays a significant role this arc, being revealed as the required tool to defeat Kaido, as well as something Kaido talked about on more than one occasion, where he said that there should not be too many Conquerors, with this mentality likely sterning from his past days as a member of the Rocks Pirates.
It's interesting that Kaido's way of handling this issue is to crush the will of the Conquerors he meets, and attempt to force them to join his crew. We've seen him trying and failing to do that with Kidd and Luffy, but i'd not be surprised if we end up seeing examples of Conquerors who's will he managed to crush in the past and force into submission.
Here King and Queen could come into the picture. I'd not be surprise if their Royal monickers also serve as a clue to indicate that they are CoC users, the one's that Kaido managed to force submit to him.
We've seen Queen's reaction to CoC and how he laughed it off when Luffy used it as if it's no big deal, not even giving his now trademark shocked Pikachu face.
We've also seen a big distinction between the way King and Queen act towards each other, and the way they act towards Jack and Jack acts towards them.
And this could serve as a clue as well because of how they stand up to eachother as fellow CoC users, while they dominate Jack who lacks CoC.
Oda could then use this as a paralel for the different means Luffy and Kaido managed to get such individuals to follow them and solved the Rocks dilema where they were fighting eachother all the time, and the purpose of this paralel could be to show why Luffy's way is the right way, and what benefits there are with Luffy supporting the ambition of the CoC users that chose to follow him.
If this is the case, Sanji's CoC could be revealed in his fight with Queen, the moment the two get to the point where they have a CoC clash as we've seen with Luffy and Doflamingo for example back in Dressrosa
If not in Wano, then my next best guess would maybe be the Vegapunk arc. Then the experiments Judge did on his kids could be brought back to discussion, and the narrative could be that Sanji being a failed experiment is what saved the lineage of potential Conquerors that has it's roots in their ancestors who at one point Conquered the whole North Blue. This could also give even more weight to Sora's actions as the one who made this possible.
Sanji could be framed as the true inheritor of their will, and the one who pushes Germa back to the right path that Judge had strayed from, which caused him to miss the chance of awakening CoC. Something about believing in yourself vs thinking you need to change yourself and make experiments to create better versions of yourself to achieve your goals would probably be what Oda goes with.
Sanji‘s not all that high on Oda’s priorities this arc. That’s not a knock on Sanji, it’s just reality, there’s a lot of characters to balance here that may never have a chance to show off again, and Sanji just had a big arc of his own. Oda won’t want to saturate the one arc with CoC reveals, and there’s other potential characters like Law, Marco, Killer, Yamato, even Momonosuke, that would be prioritised for a CoC reveal here, before you get down to the fourth important fight between Sanji and Queen. We haven’t even seen Kid actually use CoC, we just know he has it.
Plus It’ll be hard enough for any CoC reveal to top Zoro’s, given the circumstances in which it was revealed, so to then follow it in the same arc with Sanji getting it when clashing with Kaido’s second strongest subordinate... it just doesn’t have any oomph to it.
Oda will also want to be maintaining a bit of a balance between how many CoC users will be on each crew. I can’t see him giving the Beast Pirates three (maybe even four with Yamato) when Big Mom only has Katakuri. He’s not the PK, and he wasn’t the uncrowned PK like Whitebeard, I don’t see any real reason for his crew to stand out that much.
King as a bit of a Katakuri analogue makes sense, especially since he’s fighting either Marco or Zoro, two other right hand men. Yamato’s a bit of a special case since she’s Kaido’s daughter and has left the crew, but she could well show it this arc.
Going down to Queen and him getting it is a bit too much for me. That many CoC users is for the PK level crews like Roger, WB, Luffy and BB, not Yonko like Kaido.
The Vegapunk/Judge idea is much more likely to me. The Sanji/Judge storyline just ... isn’t finished, Judge still thinks Sanji is worthless (or at least is pretending to himself that Sanji is worthless), we don’t anything about why Sanji’s mother has the same name as Sora, and the 66 days of wandering hasn’t even slightly be touched on.
That is all the ingredients you need for a CoC reveal. A triumphant moment specifically about Sanji and his past, and the final slap in the face to Judge. And it can happen that bit before the final war (i think that Vegapunk and Elbaf will be merged together, for numerous reasons). Sanji using CoC in front of Judge brings much more catharsis than him using it against Queen, and it can be at a moment when Sanji is really focused on, not just as one fight out of nine or ten like is happening on Wano. Even if it was just a CoC making people faint moment and not using it in battle (I’m not sure Sanji will ever do that).
Much like Usopp would have to show it on Elbaf, Zoro had to show it on Wano, that’s the moment that makes the most sense for me as the Sanji CoC litmus test, not here. I can see the building blocks for that story being in place, in a way that Sanji vs Queen on Wano doesn’t achieve
I could see a world where we get both a CoC reveal this arc, and a dive into Sanji's ancestors having it, why Judge doesn't, and how Sanji will come to inherit their will in a later arc.
I'm definitely not going to argue that Sanji has to get it this arc, there's merit to all the arguments you bring up.
I would say though that Kaido having "too many CoC users" does fit with the themes of this arc and what he's shown he's trying to do when he runs into other CoC users like Kidd and Luffy.
I think Queen especially for a YC2 got special treatment in terms of how his standing in the crew was portrayed if we look back at how WCI's handled the Katakuri, Smoothie and Cracker dynamic, and how Jack is portrayed in comparison to King and Queen.
Kaido also has this meritocracy system where the All Stars can be challenged for their positons, but it looks like King and Queen managed to hold on to their top two spots ever since Kaido step foot in Wano, as they are also the one's highlited when the Scabbards and Oden tried to kill Kaido in the past.
Kaido's crew could be a "pseudo PK crew", that falls short because of a number of reasons. Kaido could be trying to emulate the Rocks formula of gathering Conquerors to form the strongest crew, which again would be why he tried to get Kidd and Luffy to join him, but Kaido's methods of trying to make up for the shortcomings of the Rocks having too many CoC users could be what stiffles both his personal growth as well as that of his subordinates.
Basically King and Queen would be "broken Conquerors". Somewhat akin to Chinjao i guess after his defeat against Garp. CoC users that no longer became capable of reaching their full potential, and that would be the main factor holding Kaido back from actually having a PK level crew.
It would tie in all these themes nicely together by contrasting this with Luffy's way of doing things, and showcasing why Luffy's way is the right way. Then Wano would not only end with Luffy having a Yonko level crew, but it would also properly highlight what about the SH's make them a PK level crew in the future.
Queen is still one of the two big non Yonko fights in this arc that i'm sure will get significant focus after how much of a villanous presence Queen's character has had ever since the beginning of the second act. We also have Queen's shared past with Judge to work with here to push for character moments for Sanji, and there's this interesting aspect of Sanji telling Momonosuke how impressed he was by him yelling out his name to everyone when he was about to get killed.
It could be that Sanji's CoC awakening is a moment of acceptance of himself as a whole. The act started with him refusing any connection to Germa after all and the sentiment that he's never going to make use of the Raid Suit, so it could conclude with him accepting that he is Vinsmoke Sanji, facing his past and his lineage, with no fear that it's something that could define what he's going to be in the future.
Queen could be used as a catalyst for that once he starts to dig into his shared past with Judge during his fight with Sanji.
But yeah, nothing is set in stone and this is entirely speculative. There's not a clear moment when Sanji's CoC reveal has to happen as things stand.
I'm definitely not going to argue that Sanji has to get it this arc, there's merit to all the arguments you bring up.
I would say though that Kaido having "too many CoC users" does fit with the themes of this arc and what he's shown he's trying to do when he runs into other CoC users like Kidd and Luffy.
I think Queen especially for a YC2 got special treatment in terms of how his standing in the crew was portrayed if we look back at how WCI's handled the Katakuri, Smoothie and Cracker dynamic, and how Jack is portrayed in comparison to King and Queen.
Kaido also has this meritocracy system where the All Stars can be challenged for their positons, but it looks like King and Queen managed to hold on to their top two spots ever since Kaido step foot in Wano, as they are also the one's highlited when the Scabbards and Oden tried to kill Kaido in the past.
Kaido's crew could be a "pseudo PK crew", that falls short because of a number of reasons. Kaido could be trying to emulate the Rocks formula of gathering Conquerors to form the strongest crew, which again would be why he tried to get Kidd and Luffy to join him, but Kaido's methods of trying to make up for the shortcomings of the Rocks having too many CoC users could be what stiffles both his personal growth as well as that of his subordinates.
Basically King and Queen would be "broken Conquerors". Somewhat akin to Chinjao i guess after his defeat against Garp. CoC users that no longer became capable of reaching their full potential, and that would be the main factor holding Kaido back from actually having a PK level crew.
It would tie in all these themes nicely together by contrasting this with Luffy's way of doing things, and showcasing why Luffy's way is the right way. Then Wano would not only end with Luffy having a Yonko level crew, but it would also properly highlight what about the SH's make them a PK level crew in the future.
Queen is still one of the two big non Yonko fights in this arc that i'm sure will get significant focus after how much of a villanous presence Queen's character has had ever since the beginning of the second act. We also have Queen's shared past with Judge to work with here to push for character moments for Sanji, and there's this interesting aspect of Sanji telling Momonosuke how impressed he was by him yelling out his name to everyone when he was about to get killed.
It could be that Sanji's CoC awakening is a moment of acceptance of himself as a whole. The act started with him refusing any connection to Germa after all and the sentiment that he's never going to make use of the Raid Suit, so it could conclude with him accepting that he is Vinsmoke Sanji, facing his past and his lineage, with no fear that it's something that could define what he's going to be in the future.
Queen could be used as a catalyst for that once he starts to dig into his shared past with Judge during his fight with Sanji.
But yeah, nothing is set in stone and this is entirely speculative. There's not a clear moment when Sanji's CoC reveal has to happen as things stand.
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