Powers & Abilities Sanji shouldn’t get ACoC ( I say this as a Sanji fan)

#43
I think Ad.CoC is the single stupidest power introduced into this series and how it’s become a blanket to fight against esoteric abilities is so uninspiring.
This is really the crux of the problem.

I don’t especially like Sanji getting CoC, but I think it is genuinely terrible that ACoC looks to be an absolute necessity in order to defeat what is in the grand scheme C tier villains like the Holy Knights. More for what it means for the rest of the crew than it does Sanji.
 
#47
Oda should give Sanji CoC as a symbolic power. He needs to have it to tick a box but I don't really think he should build his style around it.

It's crazy how now everyone fights the same because of AdCoC. Oden, Shanks, Zoro, Roger, Rocks Old Wings of Roger are all just spamming lighting streaks.

Luffy and Garp style is refreshing. I wonder if Oda can come up with a similar style for Sanji.
Aren't his leg style already very unique? Everyone elses use DF or weapon.

Much less the only modified humans are the Vinsmokes. That's plenty special already.
 
#49
Stood shoulder to shoulder with the Pirate King... 2180 Doriki vs 2200 Doriki... Bounties that are consistently close to each other... King and Queen being portrayed as near equals even in bounty...
It really is a matter of reading comprehension.
Gaban being closer to Roger is even bigger of a joke lmao.
2200 without his Zoan fruit lol.

Bounties are just a pattern to tell what rank they are. Luffy was nowhere closer to 1.5B lol.
Kidd and law and not 3 B.
King and queen were never portrayed as near equal lol. Queen himself said they can't beat the king.

Stop coping with the agenda so much.
 

Rej

Holy Simp
#50
Giving Sanji and Zoro CoC looks like a shortcut to me.

Oda could have fleshed out CoA and CoO way more and add higher layers, higher amptitude to it, combining with Sanji's exoskeleton or Zoro's Black Blades.

Everything comming down and being reduced to CoC looks like Oda's way to shortcut the evolution of the powersystems in One Piece.

Nevertheless, I trust Oda in shortcutting this, else we would roughly have a few months of extra chapters to flesh out potential new power ups for Sanji and Zoro.

Also what I am saying is just speculative, this are just some feels/assumptions I have on this.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#51
Due to Lolda’s abysmal pacing, it seems we won’t get any payoff/answer to the whole Sanji CoC conundrum until after next year. But I want to make something very clear, I as a Sanji fan DO NOT want him to have CoC/ACoC.

Now, this is not because I don’t think he doesn’t have indomitable will ( based on his manic adherence to his chivalric code and refusal to break it) but because it shouldn’t have become so common and is a cheap narrative device.

Lolda instead of taking the easy way out and just giving everyone who is relevant CoC, should have put more effort into developing unique power systems. Now I’ll preface this by saying that if Oda gives Sanji CoC then it’s just lazy and uninspired - if he does (based on his recent track record to pull stuff out of his arse, is highly likely). Instead the power of love should be fleshed out, which will only make Sanji that much more special. This power would match who he is as a character. Sanji is different in that whilst he is a powerhouse, he isn’t actively trying to become a conqueror or dominate anyone. He’s like WB in a way, someone who wants to protect (stupidly WB was given CoC too)I think Ad.CoC is the single stupidest power introduced into this series and how it’s become a blanket to fight against esoteric abilities is so uninspiring.
He will

PoL is Haki
 
#52
Gaban being closer to Roger is even bigger of a joke lmao.
2200 without his Zoan fruit lol.

Bounties are just a pattern to tell what rank they are. Luffy was nowhere closer to 1.5B lol.
Kidd and law and not 3 B.
King and queen were never portrayed as near equal lol. Queen himself said they can't beat the king.

Stop coping with the agenda so much.
Okay but even Kidd and Law's bounties make some sense. They defeated Big Mom and Luffy defeated Kaido, and since they're a team they each got the bounties of Big Mom and Kaido split between them. So they each got 3B. Does it make sense that they got 3B despite not being on that level powerlevel wise? No, but the actual reasoning for it in verse is fair imo.
Not that it matters, though, Oda is very deliberate with his scaling when it comes to Zoro, Sanji, and their arc opponents. When King and Queen have nearly equal bounties while being in the exact same crew with the exact same role (both are Calamities), you can't help but think that Oda did that intentionally. Not to mention Zoro saying that both are going to be very tough to get past not making a difference between Queen and King in terms of power. Unless you think he'd say that if it were WsW and King fighting together lol
 
#54
I'm also on power of love team rather than acoc.
For one, acoc just looks boring. It's just black sparks, most can't even tell it's being used over coa haki since they look the same.

I'm already disappointed in ifrit jambe looking the same as diable jambe in a b/w manga. Oda added some sparks and called it a big upgrade after 700 chapters.
 
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