I don't undersrand!
You said Zoro cannot be > Sanji because Doriki, right ?
I pointed out that Zoro is at least 4380 Dorikis while being handicapped.
What does King and Queen vs Marco have to do with that ?
I’m telling yall once Sanji gets it fans will stop caring about it. Oda should find a way to damage immortals that fits Sanji. Diminishing ACoC just forces him to develop more BS power ups for the top tiers.
It stopped being important when Oda gifted it to Slowanoa Zero, who magically pulled the advanced version from his arse despite not even showing the basic level.
I don't undersrand!
You said Zoro cannot be > Sanji because Doriki, right ?
I pointed out that Zoro is at least 4380 Dorikis while being handicapped.
What does King and Queen vs Marco has to do with that ?
For one, I do think he is above Sanji. It's just an extreme diff.
Two, Zoro stalling them briefly doesn't indicate that he could beat them in a 1v2. All he did was stop them from achieving their goals in a few brief clashes while neither sides were going all out.
We saw that, in a 1v1 against just one of them, he struggled and needed a new attack that was far more powerful than anything he ever used before to win against him. Obviously he'd lose a 1v2 against them based off that.
Which is why I brought up Marco, he stalled King and Queen momentarily but when he had a 1v1 with King he eventually gassed out and failed to do long lasting damage to him whatsoever. You can excuse him by saying he was already exhausted but the fact remains he lost hard in a fair 1v1.
It stopped being important when Oda gifted it to Slowanoa Zero, who magically pulled the advanced version from his arse despite not even showing the basic level.
Once again I have no opposition to the character of Sanji getting CoC. I think his adherence to his code and willingness to die for it is proof enough that he has an indomitable and conquering will. What I do have a problem with is the fact that CoC has become a cheap narrative device to justify power progression without actually putting in the effort to develop something. This is an Oda issue and is not a critique of Sanji’s character.
I definitely think Oda could've had more characters make it far without going the CoC route, but he clearly wants it as an indicator of people that have accomplished more than most others ever will. Gaban has it as the Left Hand of the Pirate King, Sanji will get it for the same reason. Though I do hope Sanji's style remains amazing as it has been. He can simply develop his haki in conjuction with his flames and Germa enhancements.
Once again I have no opposition to the character of Sanji getting CoC. I think his adherence to his code and willingness to die for it is proof enough that he has an indomitable and conquering will. What I do have a problem with is the fact that CoC has become a cheap narrative device to justify power progression without actually putting in the effort to develop something. This is an Oda issue and is not a critique of Sanji’s character.
I definitely think Oda could've had more characters make it far without going the CoC route, but he clearly wants it as an indicator of people that have accomplished more than most others ever will. Gaban has it as the Left Hand of the Pirate King, Sanji will get it for the same reason. Though I do hope Sanji's style remains amazing as it has been. He can simply develop his haki in conjuction with his flames and Germa enhancements.
COC being a requirement to hurt the Holy Knighs is so lame. Cemented non-M3 straw hats as useless bums in battle forever. Who will they fight during the battle agains the WG? Some random vice-admirals?
Sanji getting CoC has always made sense. The problem comes with the watering down of what was introduced previously as a hype ability now becoming a pre requesite to even be able to fight people.
Tbh I do think having a strong will to protect is a conquerors quality I don’t believe it’s only about having like being an intimidating figure or some will to be a leader of men. That’s why we have figures like Whitebeard, Katakuri, as shining examples of big hearted people that want to be a pillar of strength to protect those that cannot, people like Koby and Sanji fit right in, I wouldn’t consider it cheap I think it’s right on the money and it’s a valuable quality.
What about Zoro stalling Kaku + Jyabura in their Zoan forms and while he was handicapped.
Are we allowed to say that Zoro can easily stall 4380 doriki then ?
Okay but even Kidd and Law's bounties make some sense. They defeated Big Mom and Luffy defeated Kaido, and since they're a team they each got the bounties of Big Mom and Kaido split between them. So they each got 3B.
Oda is very deliberate with his scaling when it comes to Zoro, Sanji, and their arc opponents. When King and Queen have nearly equal bounties while being in the exact same crew with the exact same role (both are Calamities), you can't help but think that Oda did that intentionally
Not to mention Zoro saying that both are going to be very tough to get past not making a difference between Queen and King in terms of power. Unless you think he'd say that if it were WsW and King fighting together lol
I already told you why Luffy Kidd and Law have equal bounties despite not all being equal in strength. And Buggy is perceived as a top tier in verse who has the WSS as his subordinate as well as a former Warlord who was likely top 3 strongest of that group in his prime, and they're all directly opposing the Marines by hiring people to witchhunt them and kill them.
I already told you why Luffy Kidd and Law have equal bounties despite not all being equal in strength. And Buggy is perceived as a top tier in verse who has the WSS as his subordinate as well as a former Warlord who was likely top 3 strongest of that group in his prime, and they're all directly opposing the Marines by hiring people to witchhunt them and kill them.
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