Speculations Sanji vs Queen General Thread
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Ah yeah flying 6 as well.
The dude i quoted wanted only the kaidou forces, which orochi belongs to.
Meaning no bm pirates.
I mean, it could lead to a betrayal, like robin said, pirate alliances are often marked by betrayal (possible foreshadowing), so even without lookong at bm pirates, doesnt look good.
No idea at this point to be honest. I was counting on WB pirates but marco put that down.
The dude i quoted wanted only the kaidou forces, which orochi belongs to.
Meaning no bm pirates.
I mean, it could lead to a betrayal, like robin said, pirate alliances are often marked by betrayal (possible foreshadowing), so even without lookong at bm pirates, doesnt look good.
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No idea at this point to be honest. I was counting on WB pirates but marco put that down.
Sanji might be the one guy capable of beating Queen since heat kills bacteria, meaning sanji could possibly counter queen's plagues using hell memories
The only issue with Queen is that Sanji doesn't seem to have the DC to take him out. But apart from that, Queen doesn't have shit on sanji. A huge, bulking brontosaurus isn't going to be landing many hits on hypersonic invisible man.
What will probably happen is Queen will force Sanji to develop stronger heat. Perhaps Queen's pathogens aren't easily killed by regular fire. This means that Sanji will be forced to create some new, stronger version of hell memories if he wants to beat queen
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The only issue with Queen is that Sanji doesn't seem to have the DC to take him out. But apart from that, Queen doesn't have shit on sanji. A huge, bulking brontosaurus isn't going to be landing many hits on hypersonic invisible man.
What will probably happen is Queen will force Sanji to develop stronger heat. Perhaps Queen's pathogens aren't easily killed by regular fire. This means that Sanji will be forced to create some new, stronger version of hell memories if he wants to beat queen
What? He's insulting Queen the same way Queen is insulting him. In fact, King is the one who begins the discussion, which is far different from acting indifferent. The animosity comes from how they depreciated each other out of the blue when Jack was the one who failed, which can be explained by a previous conflict. As you said, he was hostile to Jack; the point is that he had a motive to be hostile to Jack because he failed to rescue Doflamingo and Kuri had an uprising yet makes no sense to start a battle of insults (they hadn't even talked to each other) unless they don't get along at all to begin with and can't help it. See the difference?
I don't need to do anything; what you need to do, on the contrary, is to reread how their first interaction consists on insulting each other with no reason. That's clearly establishing animosity between them, hence why Oda chose to introduce them at the sime time in a bad-terms interaction.
I don't need to do anything; what you need to do, on the contrary, is to reread how their first interaction consists on insulting each other with no reason. That's clearly establishing animosity between them, hence why Oda chose to introduce them at the sime time in a bad-terms interaction.
I didn't even say they're rivals. Before getting into a debate try to understand the basics of what your adversary is defending so you don't make him lose his time.
I even made it explicit that I'm not addressing rivalries but relationships because for some reason you're not the first to assume I'm speaking of a rivalry, maybe because of some power-level insane obsession with Zoro versus Sanji. Here, read again:
I even made it explicit that I'm not addressing rivalries but relationships because for some reason you're not the first to assume I'm speaking of a rivalry, maybe because of some power-level insane obsession with Zoro versus Sanji. Here, read again:
Doubt it, for the same reason that Zoro doesn’t need to 1v1 King this arc and why I’m still hesitant to say that he’ll solo King; he doesn’t need to be on that level yet.
The next enemy for the SH’s after this are more YC commanders. They don’t have to 1v1 commanders this arc because there’s time for them to grow into that with the other commanders later in the arc. Luffy has to be at a significantly higher level because he faces people that are far stronger than anyone anybody on his crew will ever face. Sanji needs a raid suit to be competitive against marginal figures in the New World, it’s too big a leap for him at the moment.
That’s without mentioning how big the cast is for the arc, which further dilutes the chances of clean 1v1s.
What? Both of these, especially the last bit, seem especially inaccurate given we’re in an arc in which Law and Kid are going to be fighting Kaido alongside Luffy. Don’t know why people are so insistent upon placing insert-SH-here on the same level as people who are Luffy’s peers, not theirs.
The next enemy for the SH’s after this are more YC commanders. They don’t have to 1v1 commanders this arc because there’s time for them to grow into that with the other commanders later in the arc. Luffy has to be at a significantly higher level because he faces people that are far stronger than anyone anybody on his crew will ever face. Sanji needs a raid suit to be competitive against marginal figures in the New World, it’s too big a leap for him at the moment.
That’s without mentioning how big the cast is for the arc, which further dilutes the chances of clean 1v1s.
What? Both of these, especially the last bit, seem especially inaccurate given we’re in an arc in which Law and Kid are going to be fighting Kaido alongside Luffy. Don’t know why people are so insistent upon placing insert-SH-here on the same level as people who are Luffy’s peers, not theirs.
Guess I'm the only one who would rather Queen fight against Franky. Their match-up just seems so perfect... 
If it is Sanji then raid suit all the way. Queen seems like he can tank a fair bit of damage. So I hope Sanji has a few tricks up his sleeve; he's going to need them. I do hope we get team battles though or Oda mixes up the formula a tad.
If it is Sanji then raid suit all the way. Queen seems like he can tank a fair bit of damage. So I hope Sanji has a few tricks up his sleeve; he's going to need them. I do hope we get team battles though or Oda mixes up the formula a tad.
In my opinion, this isn't as well-founded as you're making it look. First of all, Kid and Law fighting Kaido alongside Luffy isn't a fact as of now, who knows how things will develop and the role they will have even if they truly fight Kaido Together. On the other hand, the idea of Kid and Law being Luffy's peers isn't that accurate either. What defines a peer, exactly, and why can't a Straw Hat compare to them?
