Break Week "Sanji will unlock CoC"
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Both of these things don't contradict each other.
My statement only mean that if you remove CoC from Sanji, he can still function & does the job (that's what happen until Egghead).
Unlike if you remove CoC from Kaido/WB/Mihawk, it will invalidate their strongest title.
Haters mocking Sanji doesn't magically change what already happened in the Manga.
My statement only mean that if you remove CoC from Sanji, he can still function & does the job (that's what happen until Egghead).
Unlike if you remove CoC from Kaido/WB/Mihawk, it will invalidate their strongest title.
Haters mocking Sanji doesn't magically change what already happened in the Manga.
Actually no
It was egghead when it was revealed all the gorosei had it. And now elbaf when it’s revealed as a necessity to fight Immortals.
Basically making it a requirement for any moderately relevant character EoS to have it.
Oda will reveal that you can cheat code yourself to getting CoC. Zoro practically did that exact thing with enma.
Imagine Laugh Tale or Lodestar has a bunch of bracelets or weights that work exactly like enma.
Oda might even pull something out of DBZ, create some time chamber where the main cast does haki training.
Anyways any relevant big character like a SH or major ally is a fair candidate for ACoC. Probably not Morley, but definitely Sabo and possibly Iva and Kuma.
It was egghead when it was revealed all the gorosei had it. And now elbaf when it’s revealed as a necessity to fight Immortals.
Basically making it a requirement for any moderately relevant character EoS to have it.
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Oda will reveal that you can cheat code yourself to getting CoC. Zoro practically did that exact thing with enma.
Imagine Laugh Tale or Lodestar has a bunch of bracelets or weights that work exactly like enma.
Oda might even pull something out of DBZ, create some time chamber where the main cast does haki training.
Anyways any relevant big character like a SH or major ally is a fair candidate for ACoC. Probably not Morley, but definitely Sabo and possibly Iva and Kuma.
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Is it just me or sanji fans have been saying this since WCI arc? 
These threads don’t got the motion they used to, huh?
Sword swallowers dwindling in numbers, but a handful of deeply deluded souls are still fighting the good fight.
All y’all need is a cookies for the circlejerk.
Sword swallowers dwindling in numbers, but a handful of deeply deluded souls are still fighting the good fight.
All y’all need is a cookies for the circlejerk.
IMO it's the persona.
Conquerors are portrayed as these indominable, stubborn, knucleheads.
It has nothing to do with not being a failure or being strong or being courageous etc. Luffy, Zoro and Kid would be willing to die for their dream and wouldn't take a step back to their dream. They often get described as "the type who wouldn't work under another man" - Zoro, Oden, Yonko under Rocks.
Sanji would 100% be willing to die for the sake of others, but I doubt he would be willing to put his life on the line for finding all blue for example.
I went over it a bit more detail here:
Obviously you can argue this criteria is not fully consistent (like Chinjao whose will was broken by Garp for example), and IF Coby turns out to be a conqueror that would completely kill it (Coby is far more antagonistic to this than Sanji is).
Conquerors are portrayed as these indominable, stubborn, knucleheads.
It has nothing to do with not being a failure or being strong or being courageous etc. Luffy, Zoro and Kid would be willing to die for their dream and wouldn't take a step back to their dream. They often get described as "the type who wouldn't work under another man" - Zoro, Oden, Yonko under Rocks.
Sanji would 100% be willing to die for the sake of others, but I doubt he would be willing to put his life on the line for finding all blue for example.
I went over it a bit more detail here:
Obviously you can argue this criteria is not fully consistent (like Chinjao whose will was broken by Garp for example), and IF Coby turns out to be a conqueror that would completely kill it (Coby is far more antagonistic to this than Sanji is).
I disagree on this even if we go by pre-ts (by post-ts this whole thing you kinda self admited falls apart anyways)
My assumption about the one trait all CoC user share (unless post-ts, this whole argument falls apart as soon as dressorsa, to make it very clear) and you seem to have some similiar definition:
Willing to die, to a inhuman stuborn degree for one, often considered silly out of reach ideals (i reject that this must be tied to the ambtion/dream thing, kid ace disproves that, he litterarly verbatum says he wants to become a pirate (not even a great one, let alone PK) and go on adventures, the most basic bitch ambition there is for the average pirate, and he shows coc first time in a moment where LUFFY is gonna get killed, nothing to do with his ambition/dream).
You are right in that that being "normal brave" has nothing to do someone is conqueror. Like someone risking their live to save their friend, while brave and certainly not everyone would do for example is "rational". Its socially accepted, norm behaivour.
However there are 2 scenes with sanji where this is not the case, in one he is even verbatum getting called unreasonable: In enies lobby and in wano. In enies lobby he lets him almost killed because he refuses to hit a woman. Nami calls him out on this and calls his behaivour unreasonable. In Wano we get the (already implied) confirmation that not only would he rather die if he would hit a woman, he would let himself killed retroactivly and reject great power (that according to him would make him low diff Queen) if he hit a woman. Both in story acknowledged as unreasonable and i think we can also agree most people would hit a woman rather than die. (some sickos dont even need an excuse for that)
Now your problem seems to be speficially if Sanji would this because of all blue but i adressed already that in the ace point.
My assumption about the one trait all CoC user share (unless post-ts, this whole argument falls apart as soon as dressorsa, to make it very clear) and you seem to have some similiar definition:
Willing to die, to a inhuman stuborn degree for one, often considered silly out of reach ideals (i reject that this must be tied to the ambtion/dream thing, kid ace disproves that, he litterarly verbatum says he wants to become a pirate (not even a great one, let alone PK) and go on adventures, the most basic bitch ambition there is for the average pirate, and he shows coc first time in a moment where LUFFY is gonna get killed, nothing to do with his ambition/dream).
You are right in that that being "normal brave" has nothing to do someone is conqueror. Like someone risking their live to save their friend, while brave and certainly not everyone would do for example is "rational". Its socially accepted, norm behaivour.
However there are 2 scenes with sanji where this is not the case, in one he is even verbatum getting called unreasonable: In enies lobby and in wano. In enies lobby he lets him almost killed because he refuses to hit a woman. Nami calls him out on this and calls his behaivour unreasonable. In Wano we get the (already implied) confirmation that not only would he rather die if he would hit a woman, he would let himself killed retroactivly and reject great power (that according to him would make him low diff Queen) if he hit a woman. Both in story acknowledged as unreasonable and i think we can also agree most people would hit a woman rather than die. (some sickos dont even need an excuse for that)
Now your problem seems to be speficially if Sanji would this because of all blue but i adressed already that in the ace point.
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