Controversial Sasuke was nerfed…

[Tyki_Mikk]

What sasuke did with the bijuu was tapping their chakra source only for his finisher move.

That is simple wrong mate, Sasuke clearly got a powerboost for his Susanoo who got a stronger version(upgrade version).
That is like calling G5 a finisher move. With is simple wrong.
Strong Susanoo was able to fight off Asura Kurama Naruto, not his normal Susanoo...

Here as example Sasuke normal Susanoo vs One Kurama Naruto(not Asura):

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You see Naruto in Kurama modus vs Sasuke Susanoo was a equal battle.
But this changed after Sasuke used the bijuu chakra to make Susanoo the avatar of the chakra of the bijuus, made Susanoo far stronger(Six Path Rikudo lvl based on Kurama):

And this is how multiple Kurama mods fought Rikudo Susanoo Sasuke powered up:

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This is clearly not a finisher but a entire new form, he used to face Naruto and overpowered him in mutliple combat situations...
You can clearly see difference between normal Susanoo Sasuke and the one who got a new form by the chakra of the Bijuus...
And you see how Naruto himself powered up with natural power, he got also stronger by his own skill.

And this is how the fight ended:

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So explain me how Sasuke is strong as Naruto?
Without the Bijuu chakra he got, could he really face Naruto?
Let be honest, his perfect Susanoo was blocked by one Kurama Naruto...

Multiple one would overpowered Sasuke, let alone Asura who matched his Rikudo bijuu version..
If Sasuke didn´t had the bijuus, this is how it would look like:
Asura Naruto>>Multiple Kurama Naruto>One Kurama Naruto=Perfect Susanoo Sasuke

It is clear that Naruto was clearly stronger.
He was the one who keep up with Kaguya while Sasuke was not.
He was almost immortal while Sasuke was... well Sasuke..

Asura Naruto mid diffs Sasuke at worst..
Only via Bijuu chakra Sasuke was able to keep up with Naruto.

 

[Sentinel]

What happens if we take kurama out of the equation too?

Kurama is part of Naruto's power but we can take Sauce's eyes out and let's see how he's getting killed by a barrage of chou odama rasengans.

So we accept that Naruto has a similar, most likely even larger, chakra source by default but if Sasuke uses some it's cheating.

Eh yes, why shouldn't we? Is Sasuke Kurama's Jinchuriki?

Sasuke borrowed the power of the bijuus to match Naruto's Asura mode. You know Naruto was always able getting sennin chakra from all the landscapes because that's his ability?

It's just factual that Sasuke would be utterly destroyed if there weren't the 9 bijuus nearby.

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On the other hand when people say he wasn't trying to kill Sasuke. Tf was bijuu bomb was supposed to do.

 

[soheilhazrat]

What happens if we take kurama out of the equation too?

What happens if we take itachis eyes our of the equation too?

 

[NAMELESS]

Sasuke's Amaterasu was definitively nerfed. Naruto stopped that jutsu with a chackra cloak lol.

 

[Thaidakar]

What happens if we take itachis eyes our of the equation too?

The fox and its chakra reserves are external. Anyone can have them. Naruto got them at infants age but that doesn't change it.
Itachi's eyes are part of his own original body.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

It is really funny how much better with the Rinnegan Nagato was compared to literally every other user

 

[MonochromeYoru]

It is really funny how much better with the Rinnegan Nagato was compared to literally every other user

he binding vow'd himself into a cripple to have better Rinnegan

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

he binding vow'd himself into a cripple to have better Rinnegan

Bro was legit going to solo Naruto and Bee with Rinnegan spam at the same time if Itachi didn’t step in

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Sasuke arsenal wasn't utilised properly.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Summon a rinnegan eye monster to share vision and cover your blind spot

Use mechanical limbs and missiles to fight multiple people at once in taijutsu

Rip out someone’s soul if you touch them

Very basic Rinnegan applications that for some reason no one other than Nagato figured out how to use for some reason

 

[MonochromeYoru]

It is really funny how much better with the Rinnegan Nagato was compared to literally every other user

bro literally switched himself with that other dude so he could get choked lol. Coulda switched that other dude with anything else but sasgay wanted that choke.

 

[soheilhazrat]

Itachi's eyes are part of his own original body

They are external help.... just like kurama
Without external helps

SM Naruto and Uzumaki chakra >>> Base and MS sharingan

 

[Thaidakar]

They are external help....

His own eyes are external help? What about his arms? They too? And his legs? Nose? What a cheater he dares using his nose to smell!
Are Naruto's eyes also external?

 

[soheilhazrat]

His own eyes are external help? What about his arms? They too? And his legs? Nose? What a cheater he dares using his nose to smell!
Are Naruto's eyes also external?

those are itachis eyes he has EMS thanks to Itachi and Obito gifting them to him, Itachi also Gifted them to him

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Without Kurama Naruto loses in a extreme diff to my OC Sasuke

 

[Sentinel]

bro literally switched himself with that other dude so he could get choked lol. Coulda switched that other dude with anything else but sasgay wanted that choke.

Wait, no way THAT happened?

Boruto is filler.

 

[ZenZu]

That's some coping, unfortunately.

Boruto is non canon filler.

 

[comrade]

So since when is being inexperienced = being nerfed. Sasuke being inexperienced is on him. Just like DR Luffy wasn't "nerfed" because he couldn't use penetration Haki and ACoC yet.

That being said, Sasuke had complete mastery over the Rinnegan.

- teleportation (akin to Madara's Limbo)
- Chibaku Sensei
- Chakra absorption

Basically demonstrating the most advanced moves with former two.

The fact Sasuke had to amp himself with the Chakra of all Biju was kinda poor.

Oda had to further humiliate Sasuke by having him amp his Chidori with Amaterasu to equally clash with Naruto's Rasengan. Lol.

 

[Unleashed Truth]

If there is a power difference the size of 8,5 Bijuus between Naruto and Sasuke in their teenage phase, how do you guys explain the absolute equality between them in adulthood?

In all the fights they had against the Otsutsuki (with the exception of Baryon mode, but for that Naruto had to sacrifice Kurama), they performed on equal terms in all attributes; be it strength, speed, and with chakra avatars. The author's intention was as clear as a river.

 

[soupongo]

Oda had to further humiliate Sasuke by having him amp his Chidori with Amaterasu to equally clash with Naruto's Rasengan. Lol.

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