Chapter Discussion Saturn and how Oda showed him. Is he strong or not?

[EmperorKinyagi]

Least favorite boss is definitely Micholash. It's hardly a real boss fight.

Favorite is...Ludwig.

And least favorite area is anywhere with poison swamps.

Favorite area? Old Yharnam.

Respectable takes all around. Ludwig is definitely up there for me too but I personally don’t enjoy his first phase as much as other people.

We might be on opposite side of OP power level debates, but your Bloodborne takes are solid so far. This is like the time I found out Zowo/L57 was a massive Sukuna fan after having cancer powerscaling debates with him for years lol

 

[LolonoisZolo]

There is also marco though.

True!
My point still stands though, Saturn has a hax regen.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Both of Ludwig's weapons are goated

 

[vikas]

I never had hopes in one piece having good villains.... Last good one for me was crocodile.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

If we’re flexing souls game credentials… I’ve beaten all of them at least 3 times and have done level 1 runs of ER, DS3, and a BL4 run of Bloodborne

I also recorded my level 1 kill of Malenia I think I’ve shared it here a few times.

Btw you should play lies of p if you really liked Bloodborne

How about Sekiro ?

 

[Ryuarashi]

Strong, but he's not in the top echelon with the Gorosei.

A fighter with clear weaknesses and strengths, so far his hax seems to be absolute and his regeneration speed is impressive.

I never had hopes in one piece having good villains.... Last good one for me was crocodile.

Dolfamingo, and Wano Act 1&2 Kaido?

 

[Julius]

He literally beat him with his eye balls lol

Yeah we can see in 1104 Sanji lying on the ground beaten

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Yes I am serious.
Sanji couldn't move even when Bonney was going to get killed.
I don't understand why you took it personnal lol
It is literally waht happened in the manga.
''My golden boy Zoro'' like you say didn't get that treatment.
Sure I agree that it was to hype Saturn at the expense of Sanji (as usual by Frauda) but it happened didn't it ?
Blame Oda...

So Bonney not being able to defend herself against a Gorosei is a Sanji L?


Dudes don't know what to come up with against Sanji anymore


First it was the "His haki is not strong enough" headcanon someone took from his own ass, now whats next?

 

[vikas]

Strong, but he's not in the top echelon with the Gorosei.

A fighter with clear weaknesses and strengths, so far his hax seems to be absolute and his regeneration speed is impressive.

Dolfamingo, and Wano Act 1&2 Kaido?

They were not villains just enemies to take down....honestly just opponents for luffy to show he is leveling up. Why would Kaido Act 1 & 2 be considered a villain though? Infact I still see Orochi being a better villain than Kaido by far.

 

[dirtyLarry]

Did Kizaru shit himself in fear of Apoo like Saturn did to mortally wounded Kuma?

Did Kizaru actually take damage or did his logia fruit leave him unwounded while Saturn was actually injured?

Was Kizaru’s retaliation on Kuma nullified by Sanji and Franky?

Think very hard for when you give me a proper reply in 2038

Let's look at it objectively:

1) Saturn obviously didn't show any kind of fear. He was just totally confused and sweating because he had pushed Kuma's self-destruct button a few days ago and now he was standing right before him. It was even emphasized this chapter to make that perfectly clear.

2) Saturn wasn't injured any more than Kizaru was. Look at the last panel of this chapter: Saturn is in picture perfect condition again. No scratches, no blood. He had a few scratches earlier on, but regenerated all of it (just like Kizaru did).

3) Kizaru's retaliation on Sabaody was stopped by old Rayleigh joking around with him.

 

[straightforward]

he's strong but stupid

 

[BillSlipton]

He still top tier no doubt about it but blud looks real bad here i know his regen is his strong point but his dura kinda ass

Not everyone is an ancient zoan dino that's hyped for their durability and endurance.

That'd make zoan fruits pointless. Saturn can't be more durable than ulti

 

[Yomi]

Idc about allat, that post was just to show the hypocrisy of the people claiming Saturn is weak for losing limbs to buildings since Kizaru also lost limbs to pre ts Apoo

Oh please, that's just what Logia's do. They don't defend against weak attacks. It'd be a waste of Haki.

All this guy did was shoot sand, all Apoo did was cut light. Doesn't mean their durability is on their element's level.

Saturn is literally bleeding out like a stuck pig, his real body's getting hurt, regening doesn't change that. He's getting punched accross islands, beign deflected by Sanji, it's just not good look for him right now.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

How about Sekiro ?

Me favorite game

 

[Alarica]

Oh please, that's just what Logia's do. They don't defend against weak attacks. It'd be a waste of Haki.

All this guy did was shoot sand, all Apoo did was cut light. Doesn't mean their durability is on their element's level.

Saturn is literally bleeding out like a stuck pig, his real body's getting hurt, regening doesn't change that. He's getting punched accross islands, beign deflected by Sanji, it's just not good look for him right now.

Ehhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm
Saturn even when is bleeding didn't cry like a pig, like Crydo did, that what I remembeeeeeeer.

Soooooooooo maybe for him it is funny to feel something after hundred years of boredoooooom.

Boooooooooring you are

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Yeah we can see in 1104 Sanji lying on the ground beaten

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So Bonney not being able to defend herself against a Gorosei is a Sanji L?


Dudes don't know what to come up with against Sanji anymore


First it was the "His haki is not strong enough" headcanon someone took from his own ass, now whats next?

Isn't Sanji boosted when he sees a damsel in distress ?
Didn't Sanji leave Nami and Usopp against BM because he heard or sensed a damsel in distress ?
Sanji's whole character revolves around ''saving'' women but now Bonney (a girl child) doesn't matter to Sanji ?
Get your head out of your ass and try to understand my post before gettting worked up.
My point was about Saturn and his ''strength'', Sanji was brought up because he was the strongest that got pinned with a stare and Bonney was brought up to show that Sanji was trying his hardest to move and couldn't but you still found a way to get offended somehow.

 

[Julius]

Isn't Sanji boosted when he sees a damsel in distress ?
Didn't Sanji leave Nami and Usopp against BM because he heard or sensed a damsel in distress ?

This isnt a rule, it actually can be a nerf to his judgement and make him act inconsequently, like in the Black Maria case

So that is completely irrelevant here

You should stick to "His haki is not strong enough" headcanon (bluds thought Bonney could move because her haki was better than Sanji's)

 

[Cross_Marian]

Laturn is not weak.

My man Kuma is too strong!

You’re absolutely right
The only right answer