Chapter Discussion Saturn and how Oda showed him. Is he strong or not?

[Konstantis]

Now after chapter was leaked I finally can give my point of view on Gorosei. Due spoilers many people jumped into conclusion that Saturn is weak and was crying like Kaido when he was stubbed by scabbards, and now we see what is true and what is not. By narrative perspective some people started to fortget basic rules of story writing. For example if Author wants to show some part of true power of particular character he didn't need to show everything what this character can do.

In chapter 1104 Saturn wasn't showed weak or strong, that wasn't Oda's goal in the first place. But Oda wanted to show us that Saturn is immortal and he even didn't scream when his arm was ripped off. Actually whole chapter Saturn looked like some Kizaru who was attacked by Apoo and cutted in half, with the only difference Kizaru was just learning about something interesting for him, while Saturn didn't care at all.

When Kuma started to attack Saturn he didn't even try to block attack, or bother with attempt to stop Kuma, instead he talked to Vegapank on the matter why Kuma was acting like that. Saturn litteraly didn't care at all about damage that he got, which is insane. And when he was attacked by Kuma we saw his face, and it wasn't show the pain, but instead we saw some sort of anger.

So with that beign said Saturn was showed by Oda as the man, that litteraly don't care if his body was damaged or not. That is real immortality...but that does that mean that Sarurn is just Spandam? Or he is just weakling? Actually not. He is immortal, and Oda's goal in this chapter was to show us Saturn's immortality, not his haki power lvl.

 

[Moegara]

Option 2. He just hasn't bothered yet.

 

[Herrera95]

I always said since Sabo that Gorosei are FUCKING WEAK

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Powerful beyond the reader's imaginations.

 

[Kumathegoat]

Laturn is not weak.

My man Kuma is too strong!

 

[ShinichiMugi]

Maybe he is physically strong but he doesnt use to fight anyway.

 

[Juanpiz]

You all ain't ready for the war Gorosei

 

[Garp the Fist]

Obviously strong, the chapter’s about giving Kuma his big moment and Saturn’s regen is just a bonus.

 

[Hako Sama]

His durability is crap, but his regen is pretty broken.
The only chess piece left is his AP.

We'll see when he gets someone strong enough to fight.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Unclear but he is definitely NOT Kaido level I’d say

 

[Salah WG]

No Ability Demonstrated
Hax Not Explained
No Named Attack
No DF Named
No Haki Reveal
No Power Level Statement
No Actual Fight
So We really can't tell, He is still almost Featless

But i'm 90% Confident & i said it when He was Introduced, that those Demons are made of Pure Haki
Basically Living Beings have Physical Form that can learn to Control Haki, Imu & Gorosei are Beings made of Haki & They can control their Physical Form (Basically opposite of Everyone Else)

Saturn's Hax is basically Opposite of Haoshoku Haki
Instead of a CoC User unleashing his Haki from his Body to Conquer the Haki of others (Causing them to Pass Out or at least Intimidated)
Saturn is a Haki Demon unleashing his Body to Conquer the Bodies of others (Causing them to Die instantly or get Paralyzed)

Literally, just "Reverse" everything you know about Haki, and you will understand how Gorosei Powers work.
In Normal Living Beings, their Bodies are Damageable but Haki isn't unless you Use Haoshoku Haki (Power to Conquer)
So in Reverse Mode, Saturn's Haki is Damageable but his Body isn't, unless you Use a Body similar to it (One created from Haki)

This means there are Two Ways to Defeat Saturn
Find his Haki Source or Kill his Body with a Similar Body (Asura is apparently same Technique as Saturn's but not Perfected)

 

[Alarica]

Ehhhhhhhmmmmm, well let's see what next chapter will show us

Post automatically merged: Jan 18, 2024

Also Kizaru wasn't shocked when he saw Gorosei immortality

 

[NotTommy]

He's strong. I think he'll still end up a top-tier, seems he'll face Luffy (in my opinion based off that Kuma flashback), but it's fine to be great in some aspects (regeneration, whatever hax abilities he has that haven't been expanded on), but be weak in others (durability).

Saturn doesn't seem as imposing as prior, but that's cause Kuma landed that monstrous punch then left, it was his time to shine, against Luffy Saturn will probably deal good damage. With Kuma gone, I'm curious if Saturn uses that restriction power against Sanji and Franky again and if they can figure it out, or if Saturn just doesn't use it till Luffy arrives. Regardless he has cool powers and will likely show more.

 

[MarineHQ]

He is strong, nobody truly believes otherwise. Kuma had to get his moment and blocking base attacks or dodging them never means much in the grand scheme but it is still very fun pointing out that some bros defend the "anti-feats" that they would slander other characters for.

Someone that specialises in regen is perfect to be abused as a punching bag.

 

[Chiji_]

He definitely isn’t weak that’s for sure, things like durability, endurance, don’t matter if you just instantaneously heal from anything. At least Marco showed signs of stamina drain, Saturn doesn’t seem to be exerting any energy at all. All I’m now interested in what he’s fully capable with his full attack power and seeing how exactly his hax functions.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Before Kuma arrived Saturn negged Sanji, who has a 1 billion+ bounty and defeated Queen, as well as Franky, who beat a tobi roppo.

He’s a top tier, there’s no debating it.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Laturn is not weak.

My man Kuma is too strong!

Truth.

 

[dirtyLarry]

Dude didn't even bother one bit yet and even casually went "I see, so just some lowly human malfunction" when Vegapunk told him what was up with Kuma.

All he did was regenerating into his perfect original state again and getting mildly annoyed.

He probably thinks about taking a nap after ordering the buster call, since nobody on this island poses an actual threat to him anyway.

 

[Yoho]

The only thing that keeps him relevant is his healing without that he's tobi-roppo tier at best

 

[Croco boy]

He still top tier no doubt about it but blud looks real bad here i know his regen is his strong point but his dura kinda ass