Current Events Saturn is the Big Bad of Egghead
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Luffy literally was the one who engaged on Vegapunk to prove himself. And luffy has failed to defeat Kizaru already.
Kizaru is a man much more connected to Vegapunk who’s trying to kill Vegapunk.
And now we’re shown that Saturn has a hax that keeps humans paralyzed while Frankys tech isn’t effected by it?
Cmon it’s pretty clear that the cyborg Kuma and ancient robot connected to Joyboy are going to be the one to fight Saturn. Luffy will need to finish his fight with Kizaru.
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Stand by it. Saturn is a secondary antagonist but not as connected to the arc. Like Kuma and Vergo was.
Kizaru is a man much more connected to Vegapunk who’s trying to kill Vegapunk.
And now we’re shown that Saturn has a hax that keeps humans paralyzed while Frankys tech isn’t effected by it?
Cmon it’s pretty clear that the cyborg Kuma and ancient robot connected to Joyboy are going to be the one to fight Saturn. Luffy will need to finish his fight with Kizaru.
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Stand by it. Saturn is a secondary antagonist but not as connected to the arc. Like Kuma and Vergo was.
While I think Kizaru still has a role to play in the narrative here at Egghead, I think it's clear enough that Saturn is the arc's big bad.
However it is worth keeping in mind that there's still the potential heel turn from Kizaru to look forward to. Unless Oda is aiming for a more nihilistic character arc for Kizaru, I doubt that the various winks and nods to Kizaru's internal conflict over his mission here and his acknowledgement of being just "a cog in the machine" won't pay off in some manner before the arc is over.
However it is worth keeping in mind that there's still the potential heel turn from Kizaru to look forward to. Unless Oda is aiming for a more nihilistic character arc for Kizaru, I doubt that the various winks and nods to Kizaru's internal conflict over his mission here and his acknowledgement of being just "a cog in the machine" won't pay off in some manner before the arc is over.
Better analogy would be Big Mom to Katakuri though in this case though lol. She fits mosts of the constraints you provide about Saturn here.
The issue is not necessarily that Saturn cant go down here, its about then what the WG manages to achieve by not getting Serephim and Mother Flame on their side, something thst is ultimately necessary for the WG to feel like endgame threats.
Also, this scene also seems to support that an escape scenario is still likely.
In order for an escape scenario to be the point, then it makes far more sense for Saturn to not actually lose here and command the destruction of the island
Hes still the main antagonist, but that doesnt mean he needs to be Luffy's fight. Spandam is technically the main antagonist of Enies Lobby, as is Big Mom in WCI
The issue is not necessarily that Saturn cant go down here, its about then what the WG manages to achieve by not getting Serephim and Mother Flame on their side, something thst is ultimately necessary for the WG to feel like endgame threats.
Also, this scene also seems to support that an escape scenario is still likely.
In order for an escape scenario to be the point, then it makes far more sense for Saturn to not actually lose here and command the destruction of the island
Hes still the main antagonist, but that doesnt mean he needs to be Luffy's fight. Spandam is technically the main antagonist of Enies Lobby, as is Big Mom in WCI
Better analogy would be Big Mom to Katakuri though in this case though lol. She fits mosts of the constraints you provide about Saturn here.
The issue is not necessarily that Saturn cant go down here, its about then what the WG manages to achieve by not getting Serephim and Mother Flame on their side, something thst is ultimately necessary for the WG to feel like endgame threats.
Also, this scene also seems to support that an escape scenario is still likely.
In order for an escape scenario to be the point, then it makes far more sense for Saturn to not actually lose here and command the destruction of the island
The issue is not necessarily that Saturn cant go down here, its about then what the WG manages to achieve by not getting Serephim and Mother Flame on their side, something thst is ultimately necessary for the WG to feel like endgame threats.
Also, this scene also seems to support that an escape scenario is still likely.
In order for an escape scenario to be the point, then it makes far more sense for Saturn to not actually lose here and command the destruction of the island
Better analogy would be Big Mom to Katakuri though in this case though lol. She fits mosts of the constraints you provide about Saturn here.
The issue is not necessarily that Saturn cant go down here, its about then what the WG manages to achieve by not getting Serephim and Mother Flame on their side, something thst is ultimately necessary for the WG to feel like endgame threats.
Also, this scene also seems to support that an escape scenario is still likely.
In order for an escape scenario to be the point, then it makes far more sense for Saturn to not actually lose here and command the destruction of the island
The issue is not necessarily that Saturn cant go down here, its about then what the WG manages to achieve by not getting Serephim and Mother Flame on their side, something thst is ultimately necessary for the WG to feel like endgame threats.
Also, this scene also seems to support that an escape scenario is still likely.
In order for an escape scenario to be the point, then it makes far more sense for Saturn to not actually lose here and command the destruction of the island
I think Saturn will succeed in killing the original Vegapunk, but aside from that, I think his broader goal of securing the island and Vegapunk's work for the World Government will end in failure. Whether it be by the Straw Hats defeating Saturn or by someone like Franky or even Vegapunk himself activating a self-destruct sequence to take out Saturn and his own existing work with him to the grave.
Not only is Saturn the big bad, but he's definitely Luffy's main fight. Kizaru is down after taking one CoC attack from Luffy. He'll obviously get back up, but if Luffy takes the fight seriously and keeps using CoC, Kizaru will be way to easy of a win for an arc boss. He'll probably fight Zoro instead while Luffy fights Saturn.