Questions & Mysteries Scopper Gaban

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ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#61
First step towards becoming PK before Grand Line ~ Roger

Mid step with training towards becoming PK before the New World ~ Rayleigh

Last step towards becoming PK before Raftel ~ Scopper
all good but if oda wanted to reveal scopper in such a fashion, he wouldnt have given just his first name in the oden flashback and would the answer an sbs question about roger pirates and their designs.

:luuh:
 

Dickie D. Dick

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
#62
Marco says that it's very difficult to stall opponents with such a high bounty, so him having such a high bounty is used to hype up his strength in comparison to those with a bounty bellow 1 bil.
Doesn't change the fact that WMD is defintiely why Queen got bounty so high
Hell, fucking Ceaser got 300 mil bounty for one incident with WMD
 

Warchief Sanji D Goat

Queen Gunko!➡️⬆️⬇️⬅️
#63
Wtf are you saying? The manga explicitly states the commanders of the WBP and BBP don't have a hierarchy based on the division numbers.

You can't pick and choose when that applies. Stop quoting me with nonsense.
So the numbers system is just for random? Aye cool.
Doesn't change the fact that WMD is defintiely why Queen got bounty so high
Hell, fucking Ceaser got 300 mil bounty for one incident with WMD
What does WMD mean?
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#67
Marco says that it's very difficult to stall opponents with such a high bounty, so him having such a high bounty is used to hype up his strength in comparison to those with a bounty bellow 1 bil.
he says that right after sending queen flying so id take it aith a grain of salt. all it meant was he was handling 2 yonko commanders and if anything it was supposed to hype marco and not queen lol.
 
#72
he says that right after sending queen flying so id take it aith a grain of salt. all it meant was he was handling 2 yonko commanders and if anything it was supposed to hype marco and not queen lol.
After he sends both King and Queen flying, yes.

No grain of salt, Marco is thinking to himself how taxing it is to fight them and how Chopper needs to rush.

To strengthen that Perospero sees Marco immediately after and comments on how roughed up he is.

Oda tripled up on that, there's no trying to sweep it under the rug.
 

Dickie D. Dick

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
#73
Doesn't change the fact that Marco has fought him and has found his performance reflective of someone with a bounty of over 1 bil, saying that as expected it's very difficult to stall opponents with such a high bounty.
Doesn't change the fact Marco alone overpowering him & King is anti-feat that show his bounty is fraud like his captain
 
#76
Doesn't change the fact Marco alone overpowering him & King is anti-feat that show his bounty is fraud like his captain
Marco vouches for his strength being accurate for his bounty and for how hard it is for him to fight both of them, and that's given more strength by the fact that he thinks to himself that Chopper needs to rush because he can't do this for much longer, as well as on top of that Oda even pushing Perospero there to take note of how roughed up Marco is and how spent he looks.

So yeah, Oda wanted to make sure, like be 100% sure, that his readers get that.
 

Garp the Fist

Bwahahahaha
#78
Shanks is not one of the Roger Pirates that made it to Raftel though. From the perspective of the final step to reaching that place, and how a Roger Pirate feels about what they have found out there and what that would mean for BB or Luffy, Shanks would be less fitting.
We have absolutely no reason to care what Scopper Gaban thinks about Luffy getting to Laugh Tale though. It adds nothing to Luffy’s journey, when we’ve already seen both Roger’s right hand man and the one he gifted his hat to put their faith in Luffy.

We have every reason to care about what Shanks thinks about it, given that’s been the purpose of the series since literally the first chapter.

Even meeting Crocus again after Laugh Tale will have much more meaning than meeting Gaban, since Crocus and Brook have a history together and it accomplishes Brook’s dream.

There’s just no point in adding in another Roger Pirate at the very end of the series, one who’s been irrelevant for the 90% of the story previous, when Shanks, Rayleigh, Crocus, and even Buggy, have already have well-established relationships with Luffy. Those guys (minus Buggy) have believed in Luffy since he was a child, a newbie to Paradise, and a big name rookie.

Rayleigh would be fitting, but he would not be there to provide that interaction in real time.
Well, Rayleih could get a boat after hearing Luffy beat Kaido and head out to meet Luffy. Would make as much sense as Gaban randomly showing up and mean far more to Luffy.
Scopper could make that decision by himself, not follow Roger's order.

Maybe Rayleigh is casual about it because he believes in the profecy, while Scopper wants to see with his own eyes this special person and crew that could achieve what his captain and they could not.
Or he can read it in a newspaper like everyone else.

We’ve been waiting all this time for a Luffy/Shanks reunion, not for a redundant Roger Pirate to show up and say what people in-series knew years ago- that Luffy is the one Roger is waiting for.

Either Gaban has some unique purpose or he doesn’t show up. Being at the end of the Grand Line is not unique when we’ve known that’s where Shanks would be since before we knew what the Grand Line was.
Wouldn't BB be able to go straight to Raftel if Scopper had joined him ? Are you envisioning a scenario where Scopper demands of Blackbeard to still take all the steps necessary to get the information without his help, to prove himself worthy or something ?
Something like that. Gaban watching Marineford, coming to the conclusion that he’s who Roger was waiting for and joining up with him. Ray didn’t tell Luffy how to get to Laugh Tale, it‘s pretty easy to imagine Gaban doing the same to Blackbeard and telling him to leave it to fate, since that’s the Blackbeard Pirate’s thing.
 
#79
We have absolutely no reason to care what Scopper Gaban thinks about Luffy getting to Laugh Tale though. It adds nothing to Luffy’s journey, when we’ve already seen both Roger’s right hand man and the one he gifted his hat to put their faith in Luffy.

We have every reason to care about what Shanks thinks about it, given that’s been the purpose of the series since literally the first chapter.

Even meeting Crocus again after Laugh Tale will have much more meaning than meeting Gaban, since Crocus and Brook have a history together and it accomplishes Brook’s dream.

There’s just no point in adding in another Roger Pirate at the very end of the series, one who’s been irrelevant for the 90% of the story previous, when Shanks, Rayleigh, Crocus, and even Buggy, have already have well-established relationships with Luffy. Those guys (minus Buggy) have believed in Luffy since he was a child, a newbie to Paradise, and a big name rookie.



Well, Rayleih could get a boat after hearing Luffy beat Kaido and head out to meet Luffy. Would make as much sense as Gaban randomly showing up and mean far more to Luffy.


Or he can read it in a newspaper like everyone else.

We’ve been waiting all this time for a Luffy/Shanks reunion, not for a redundant Roger Pirate to show up and say what people in-series knew years ago- that Luffy is the one Roger is waiting for.

Either Gaban has some unique purpose or he doesn’t show up. Being at the end of the Grand Line is not unique when we’ve known that’s where Shanks would be since before we knew what the Grand Line was.


Something like that. Gaban watching Marineford, coming to the conclusion that he’s who Roger was waiting for and joining up with him. Ray didn’t tell Luffy how to get to Laugh Tale, it‘s pretty easy to imagine Gaban doing the same to Blackbeard and telling him to leave it to fate, since that’s the Blackbeard Pirate’s thing.

Like i said, the difference could be that Scopper would be someone who maybe opposes this profecy thing and is doubtful that "the right one" will come.

For example Scopper was the one objecting to Oden joining them and leading the "anti Oden" camp until Oden earned his trust and friendship.

All Roger Pirates have approved of Luffy almost from the moment they met him, we have no opposite examples to that in the story.

It's basically not that much different from your proposal of making him someone who chose Blackbeard as "the one" instead of Luffy.

And for the purpose of seeing with his own eyes who makes it there and is supposed to fulfil this profecy, he'd have reason to settle in a place where he'd be sure to meet any "contenders" who have almost made it.
 
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