[FNZ] Role Madness [Season 2] Round 13 - Harry Potter
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Alright.
@Ratchet @Grammaton @Xlaw @Jew D. Boy @ConquistadoR @Gambit @Lord Melkor @Sallucion @T-Pein™ @DynaMight @Nick @Ryu Kishi
I have found a hole where Rej could be telling the truth. I missed something pretty obvious. My claim still won’t help, actually will help even less now. I’ll claim if you guys make me now since I fucked up. But it won’t help other than outting my ability. However if you need some transparency from me I’ll give it.
Personally my vote in staying on Rej since Rej has basically already given up which is a really bad look. But if your only reason to vote Rej is my mechanics push that’s no longer a concrete reason by itself.
@Ratchet @Grammaton @Xlaw @Jew D. Boy @ConquistadoR @Gambit @Lord Melkor @Sallucion @T-Pein™ @DynaMight @Nick @Ryu Kishi
I have found a hole where Rej could be telling the truth. I missed something pretty obvious. My claim still won’t help, actually will help even less now. I’ll claim if you guys make me now since I fucked up. But it won’t help other than outting my ability. However if you need some transparency from me I’ll give it.
Personally my vote in staying on Rej since Rej has basically already given up which is a really bad look. But if your only reason to vote Rej is my mechanics push that’s no longer a concrete reason by itself.
At this point, I would typically like for at least a character claim from Prof, and if you feel like you can do so @Dr_Professor83 without exposing your full ability then by all means, buuuut probably not neccessary. If Rej flips Town though, then I don't think there's much of a choice to be made tomorrow. I hope now you see why I was asking for a claim, this is why we do it. Some players here will insist otherwise but I've got a lot of experience with this kind of claiming format so when I'm saying "this is how it should be done"... it's probably for good reason. So if nothing else, I hope a lesson is learnt here.
I would agree that Rej is probably scum, but there is a small chance his reaction is a frustrated townie who is pissed at being mislynched. We'll see soon enough, I guess.
I would agree that Rej is probably scum, but there is a small chance his reaction is a frustrated townie who is pissed at being mislynched. We'll see soon enough, I guess.
I mean, you're learning, so it happens. One thing to keep in regards to me is that rarely if ever am I going to suggest convention that is flagrantly suboptimal or incorrect. This is not to say I'm always right, but I would wager, quite comfortably, that I've played and hosted more games than most of the players in this game combined. And with that, you learn a few things, like what does and doesn't make sense. And I bring this up because earlier, you pointed out that you can't trust my word in this game. That's fine and all, but consider this - if, as scum, I were to suggest something that was just wrong, and people followed it, there is a good chance I'd have to deal with people doing it wrong again in a game where I'm town. Or, more likely, they say "you can't be trusted!" and would ignore what I have to say, and then go and proceed in a suboptimal fashion. The point being, I would be making it much harder for myself in future games if I were to just lie about what people should and shouldn't do, more so than any win would be worth to me.
In the case of this situation specifically, when it comes to controlling information townies tend to play themselves sometimes. When you get too hung up on tricking scum or not giving them information you lose sight of the fact that information is the town's best weapon. Some players here, as they have done, will insist that what I was saying was "fishing" or "scummy", but neither is true, it's simply convention. There are, at times, reasons to break convention, but the word "convention" is used for a reason. And obviously here, the inconsistency you figured out would have been brought to light earlier, and the situation could have largely been avoided. T-Pein last game was a good example too - he was so focused on manipulating the cult that he got himself caught in a lie and lynched when he should never have been.
Gun to head, I do lean town on you. So there's that. The rest we'll have to see with this flip, but if nothing else if what you take away from this is a good learning experience then that's great as far as I'm concerned. Judgement calls are a thing and sometimes you make the wrong one, but sometimes it's best to just play the "correct" way and what happens afterwards, happens. You get the point though, and apologies for the lengthy ramble.
In the case of this situation specifically, when it comes to controlling information townies tend to play themselves sometimes. When you get too hung up on tricking scum or not giving them information you lose sight of the fact that information is the town's best weapon. Some players here, as they have done, will insist that what I was saying was "fishing" or "scummy", but neither is true, it's simply convention. There are, at times, reasons to break convention, but the word "convention" is used for a reason. And obviously here, the inconsistency you figured out would have been brought to light earlier, and the situation could have largely been avoided. T-Pein last game was a good example too - he was so focused on manipulating the cult that he got himself caught in a lie and lynched when he should never have been.
Gun to head, I do lean town on you. So there's that. The rest we'll have to see with this flip, but if nothing else if what you take away from this is a good learning experience then that's great as far as I'm concerned. Judgement calls are a thing and sometimes you make the wrong one, but sometimes it's best to just play the "correct" way and what happens afterwards, happens. You get the point though, and apologies for the lengthy ramble.
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