Chapter Discussion Shamrock chapter reveal is extremely important according to Oda himself.

#66
He was so ass that Oda couldn't even bring himself to give him any real feats or achievements,.
It's almost like his feats and achievements at God Valley was winning the hunting game contest, and not fighting the Rocks pirates, which we've known he didn't do since Wano?
he just shoehorned him in at the end and made him kill a 2% Xebec with two HKs backing him up lol
Absolute fraud.
It's almost like he had the two HKs with him because the Gods Knights are competing for the last kill, and to make it believable that Ray and Gaban couldn't save Xebec from one guy?

Like it or not, Garlings title is objectively less fraudulent than WB,Kaido or Mihawk.
 
#70
It's almost like his feats and achievements at God Valley was winning the hunting game contest, and not fighting the Rocks pirates, which we've known he didn't do since Wano?

It's almost like he had the two HKs with him because the Gods Knights are competing for the last kill, and to make it believable that Ray and Gaban couldn't save Xebec from one guy?

Like it or not, Garlings title is objectively less fraudulent than WB,Kaido or Mihawk.
Wasn't the game cancelled anyway?
Garling is a fraud until I see him prove me wrong. If he performs well against Dragon or Sabo, then I'll sing a different tune.
 
#71
GARLING
HE’S TALKING ABOUT GARLING

Garling isn’t his son he’s a clown who just now hit his prime in his 50’s/60’s
He was so ass that Oda couldn't even bring himself to give him any real feats or achievements, he just shoehorned him in at the end and made him kill a 2% Xebec with two HKs backing him up lol
Absolute fraud.
Idk why people think he's a clown or fraud for being shut out by the one and only Xebec. Complete scumbag of a character but he was left standing in an arc where all of the top ten strongest of the time were present.

He was absolutely be called the champion of God valley as far as anyone knows unless Imu was revealed.
 
#72
I think Shiroyru’s theory is right, the answer is there :
Now that we’ve seen Loki’s full beast form, I think it’s basically confirmed that Loki’s transformation in the dragon on the tree in the mural:


In this mural, we can clearly see the dragon (Loki) clashing with the giant serpent on the right, which is likely the Hellfire Serpent mentioned in the First World Harley text. Since the dragon creature got incarnated as a DF, wouldn’t it make sense for its rival, the Hellfire Serpent, to also be incarnated as a DF? If so, I think that Shamrock would be a good contender for possessing this DF.

Oda definitely set up a future confrontation between Loki and Shamrock at the beginning of Elbaf, with Shamrock stabbing Loki 3 times, being partially responsible for Loki’s animal friends dying, and pretty much taunting Loki to fight him later on.



Of course, Oda could always just have Loki stomp Shamrock low/mid diff if he really wanted to, but I think Shamrock is too narratively important to be done dirty like that. He is the identical twin brother of Oda’s beloved Shanks after all, and was important enough to be placed on the contender spread. So if Shamrock will be strong enough to give Loki a good fight, then he would need to have something ridiculous up his sleeve to contend with a monster like Loki, and him possessing the Hellfire Serpent DF would be enough to justify him being Loki level.

I’d also like to point out that Loki and Shamrock do share the similarity of both possessing Mythical Zoan weapons, with Shamrock’s Cerberus sharing a “Hell” theme that would go along well with him being the owner of the “Hellfire Serpent” fruit.
 
#73
Idk why people think he's a clown or fraud for being shut out by the one and only Xebec. Complete scumbag of a character but he was left standing in an arc where all of the top ten strongest of the time were present.

He was absolutely be called the champion of God valley as far as anyone knows unless Imu was revealed.
He gave wb his scar!!
He fought roger!!
He’s the champion of gv!!
And we look insides and its him hunting slaves and getting one shotted by xbec who didn’t even try, disappeared for the rest of the arc show up at the end to kill a 1hp xbec.
Tried to get shanks back from roger pirates and got team rocket diff every other week.



bing me slaves bring me xbec who’s tired or I retire.
 
#74
He gave wb his scar!!
He fought roger!!
He’s the champion of gv!!
And we look insides and its him hunting slaves and getting one shotted by xbec who didn’t even try, disappeared for the rest of the arc show up at the end to kill a 1hp xbec.
Tried to get shanks back from roger pirates and got team rocket diff every other week.



bing me slaves bring me xbec who’s tired or I retire.
One shot? Well yes. He took a sword to the head, that's kinda how it works: see his last encounter with Xebec for another example.Except he's immortal, so he was actually at 100% health at that point.

His titles are no different than Luffy getting credit for his victories when the last person he beat without help or losing first was like... Arlong. Even Krieg had him dead to rights without Sanji.
 
#75
One shot? Well yes. He took a sword to the head, that's kinda how it works. Except he's immortal, so he was actually at 100% health after.

His titles are no different than Luffy getting credit for his victories when the last person he beat without help or losing first was like... Arlong. Even Krieg had him dead to rights without Sanji.
Its Not a Shame to struggle against won krieg
 
#80
We don't talk enough about how Garling as a rookie ended an entire era by killing Xebec, reducing the proud defiant pirate into having his last words being trying to desperately warn his peers to get the fuck away from Garling and his henchman. If they weren't fast enough, Garling really would have added Roger and Garp to his kill list as well.....
 
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