Powers & Abilities Shanks and old Rayleigh's Conqueror's haki potency is about equal.

#61
Did oden even existed then lol
sure Oda should've talked about Oden't CoC 7 years before even mentioning him
if you say otherwise you are a fag as he nicely put it
Stop the excuses you two. Oden got introduced later but why didn't Oda wank his CoC then huh?

He got swatted across an island by Roger like a fodder, wondering what ability that was then he learned the very same ability and reached his prime.

Feat wise his CoC is as good as that of Yamato or Current Zoro, scarring Kaido is something Zoro has done well before getting Adv CoC.

Meanwhile OLD Rayleigh has his CoC compared to PRIME Shanks, the best CoC user in the verse rn.

The difference is night and day
 
#62
Stop the excuses you two. Oden got introduced later but why didn't Oda wank his CoC then huh?

He got swatted across an island by Roger like a fodder, wondering what ability that was then he learned the very same ability and reached his prime.

Feat wise his CoC is as good as that of Yamato or Current Zoro, scarring Kaido is something Zoro has done well before getting Adv CoC.

Meanwhile OLD Rayleigh has his CoC compared to PRIME Shanks, the best CoC user in the verse rn.

The difference is night and day
btw oda said he planned wano since thriller bark
:sadgrin::sadgrin:
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Formerly Seth

#63
Oden fags can cry as much as they want. Oda himself cherry picked Rayleigh and wanked his CoC putting him at the same pedestal as the CoC god, how is the retard that shakes his ass on the streets coming close to that ?
Fuck those clowns.

Oden wasn't near Yonko level 20 years ago nor was Kaido. He even told Kaido to become stronger in those 20 years.

Prime Rayleigh is just a different breed.
 
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Formerly Seth

#65
Can't tell if troll or just stupid.

Kaido has fucking ptsd because he was the first to leave him a lasting scar.

Oden was nowehere near Prime WB/Roger or Xebec.

Even Oden tells Kaido to grow in power in next 20 years.
 
#66
Kaido has fucking ptsd because he was the first to leave him a lasting scar.

Oden was nowehere near Prime WB/Roger or Xebec.

Even Oden tells Kaido to grow in power in next 20 years.
Oden was nowhere near Prime WB/Roger or Xebec, that's why Oda grouped him with Roger and Whitebeard.

Every character up there is Yonko level or above.
 
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Formerly Seth

#67
Oden was nowhere near Prime WB/Roger or Xebec, that's why Oda grouped him with Roger and Whitebeard.

Every character up there is Yonko level or above.
It's not that deep. The characters behind Luffy are probably those remembered by Kaido the most. I doubt he ever chased Garp/Sengoku or Mihawk that;s why they are not there.

Oden is only there because he put up a fight agains him 20 years ago thats it.
 
#68
Stop the excuses you two. Oden got introduced later but why didn't Oda wank his CoC then huh?
did Oda ever wanked

- Kaido
- Big Mom
- Whitebeard
- Roger

CoC in any interview/sbs? .... so what the fuck are you talking about


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Oda is not comparing Dark King to Shanks but to Luffy
Oda himself is saying CoC cannot and should not be measured by HOW MANY but WHO


but at that point of story Shanks and Dark King are THE ONLY confirmed CoC users among top tiers


don't overread in to it ... he is merely explaining CoC magic system
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#69
You know I bet it was indeed Prime Ray who taught Shanks swordsmanship, but this is probably a case of the student did not supersede the master
 
#71
did Oda ever wanked

- Kaido
- Big Mom
- Whitebeard
- Roger

CoC in any interview/sbs? .... so what the fuck are you talking about


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Oda is not comparing Dark King to Shanks but to Luffy
Oda himself is saying CoC cannot and should not be measured by HOW MANY but WHO


but at that point of story Shanks and Dark King are THE ONLY confirmed CoC users among top tiers


don't overread in to it ... he is merely explaining CoC magic system
You're so damage controlling the fact that Oden's CoC never ever received any specific hype, like ever!

Through Yamato we know that there are levels to CoC, she didn't possess the level to split the sky with Kaido while Luffy did.

- All the Yonkou and Luffy split the sky showing their current highest level of CoC while Oden merely used it the same way Yamato or Zoro have been doing.

Exactly CoC should be measured against who it is used on and both Old Rayleigh and Prime Shanks would knock out up to 100K Fishman so Oda put both of their CoC in relation.

Why the fuck did Oda even include Ray in the first place huh?
The question was never about him and Oda could've simply answered with Yes but he himself chose Rayleigh and put him next to Shanks in that sbs.

Can't tell me that's a coincidence.
 
#72
You're so damage controlling the fact that Oden's CoC never ever received any specific hype, like ever!
and you are delusional for expecting Oda use the name of Oden instead of Dark King 7 years before even telling us his exist

Oden Hype is already OFF CHART since 1001 he doesn't need more hype
 
#75

Shanks and Ray are in the 100k tier, old Ray top 2 with his overwhelming CoC abilities confirmed? :quest:
For the illiterate that post without reading. These are the key points of what Oda said.

Q: So Luffy's supreme King haki can knock out fifty thousand. How many can Shanks knock out with his?
Oda: if they were in the same exact situation as Luffy's, Shanks and Rayleigh could probably manage up to a hundred thousand.
Also Oda
Oda: you really can't compare "how many" in different situations. If Luffy were facing a hundred thousand pirates of a certain strength, he might not be able to knock out a single one with haki.
@Red Admiral @Seraphoenix thoughts?
Not really,Oda jsut stated both would knock out Hody's army out with COC,not that they are equal,Shanks was implied to have the craziest COC ever.
 
#78
The question only asks about Shanks

Oda decides to also add in the information that Rayleigh can do the same

This is an explicit comparison between the two of them that went beyond the scope of the original question
Dont reply to the skysanji retardzhe goes around every post thats about right hand men undermining them cause he cant handle lanjis inferiority
 
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