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[Roo]

Big moms dead. And even on the rooftop, Luffy never even attacked her

she's as dead as Kid and Barto

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

They have no reason to be. Theyre dead and done.

they have reasons to be alive both in narrative structure and in content. Big Mom literally screams about how she's not dying and she's going to come back while shes falling in the hole. Kaido clenches his fists after he falls into the lava.

 

[Definitivo]

Shanks will not fight Luffy

 

[Sir Yasheen]

she's as dead as Kid and Barto

Yeah no. Oda didn’t say their era was literally over just to bring them back for no reason. Kaido and BM are dead they’re narratively useless now anyways
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they have reasons to be alive both in narrative structure and in content. Big Mom literally screams about how she's not dying and she's going to come back while shes falling in the hole. Kaido clenches his fists after he falls into the lava.

What reasons? They used everything they had and their empires are dead, their crews are gone, and their era is over.

They’re dead, dissolved in a volcano.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Yeah no. Oda didn’t say their era was literally over just to bring them back for no reason. Kaido and BM are dead they’re narratively useless now anyways
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What reasons? They used everything they had and their empires are dead, their crews are gone, and their era is over.

They’re dead, dissolved in a volcano.

they're going to take Pluton, its obvious

 

[Sir Yasheen]

they're going to take Pluton, its obvious

Plutons underwater. Both die in water.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Plutons underwater. Both die in water.

pluton is in the lava chamber they fell into, bet. a pluton is a rock formation in magma. if pluton was just underwater anyone would be able to find it. it's underneath flooded wano underground in the lava

 

[Roo]

Yeah no. Oda didn’t say their era was literally over just to bring them back for no reason. Kaido and BM are dead they’re narratively useless now anyways

their reign as emperors is over, but the characters themselves are alive. Kaido could easily retire now that he has been defeated by joyboy and BM can end her story in Elbaf

 

[Sir Yasheen]

pluton is in the lava chamber they fell into, bet. a pluton is a rock formation in magma

Pluton is a battleship, literally stated to be under the water and draining Wano is how you have to free pluton. It’s not in some random magma chamber. They’re dead.

their reign as emperors is over, but the characters themselves are alive. Kaido could easily retire now that he has been defeated by joyboy and BM can end her story in Elbaf

BMs story is over her story is her failing in Wano.

 

[Roo]

BMs story is over her story is her failing in Wano.

It's not when the character quite literally states she won't die and she'll get her revenge on other characters lmao. That is a trope, a character says they will be back so they will return

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It's not when the character quite literally states she won't die and she'll get her revenge on other characters lmao. That is a trope, a character says they will be back so they will return

Villains don’t get big impactful deaths. They die having unfulfilled dreams and regrets.

 

[Roo]

Villains don’t get big impactful deaths. They die having unfulfilled dreams and regrets.

Villains don't die stating they'll return, that is unsatisfying to the viewers.

 

[ako]

There will be a fight but not the way like Luffy vs a villain (like Kaido or Katakuri) was. That would go against plot unless Oda obviously was planning Shanks to be a villain right from the start. Which I don't think is the case.

It will be Shanks testing Luffys ability. Should be still a good fight though.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Villains don't die stating they'll return, that is unsatisfying to the viewers.

Villains die like that multiple times. Or do you also think ancient hody Jones is getting out of prison in Fishman island cause he said he will

 

[Roo]

Villains die like that multiple times. Or do you also think ancient hody Jones is getting out of prison in Fishman island cause he said he will

Um yeah, do you think Hody will die during the destruction of FMI?

Please state any villain who said they'll return and never came back? I can't think of a single one in fiction that is written well

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

I am convinced luffy vs Shnaks will happen but it will happen at elbaf arc.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Um yeah, do you think Hody will die during the destruction of FMI?

Please state any villain who said they'll return and never came back? I can't think of a single one in fiction that is written well

You think Big Mom is written well? Oda clearly never cared about writing either of these emperors well.

 

[Roo]

You think Big Mom is written well? Oda clearly never cared about writing either of these emperors well.

No but I don't think Oda would be that blatant to write off a character that literally said they'll comeback

On top of other characters alluding to the possibility of her being alive (Pudding)

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No but I don't think Oda would be that blatant to write off a character that literally said they'll comeback

On top of other characters alluding to the possibility of her being alive (Pudding)

Pudding was immediately told off that Big Moms dead after she said that.

This sounds like Gojo fans said forever

 

[Roo]

Pudding was immediately told off that Big Moms dead after she said that.

This sounds like Gojo fans said forever

???

They also gave Law 100% credit for killing her lol

Also Gojo's friends literally accepted that he died right away, Pudding is alluding to her being alive

how are these two things even remotely the same lmao