Character Discussion Shanks is a lying bitch

#1

“nobody hurts a friend of mine”

Meanwhile Kaido killed Oden and Lhanks did jack shit about it.
Like Luffy didn’t even know Oden. But the dude was literally Shanks’s nakama. Kaido murdered him and Shanks did absolutely nothing.

imagine if Shanks did what Luffy did and amassed a giant alliance to kill Kaido.
  • Mihawk(goes to wano to fight swordsmen)
  • WB
  • Rayleigh
could have easily defeated kaido

But no, he waited for Luffy to do all the work. What a fraud.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#5
But no, he waited for Luffy to do all the work. What a fraud.
Then you realize that WB, Shanks, Rayleigh and everyone who knew Oden all stayed away from Fighting Kaidou because it was Joyboy's destiny to Free Wano at the end of the 20 Years like Oden prophesized.

Rayleigh? Went to Laughtale.
WB? Learnt about Joyboy, D. Clan, Full History from Roger.
Oden? Screamed about how the World/Wano is waiting for Joyboy.
Shanks? Stole the fruit from CP0 so he knows what it is.

It's almost as simple as it's Joyboy's destiny to free Wano from Kaidou & not Shanks' or Whitebeard's or anyone else's fate to interrupt.
 
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CensoredbyWG

#8
Assuming mihawk would accept his invite lol, you gotta remember that mihawk was busy running from strong fighters and bullying small time pirates, he didnt want to face an emperor crew lol.



Pretty high chance that mihawk never went to wano.

Whitebeard knew he was too old to beat kaido + didnt want to risk his family life on top of having the weakest yonko crew imo.

Rayleigh wasnt stronger than kaido and was also hiding from marines throughout the years.
 
#10
This is more so issue of WB than shanks. Logically shanks and WB could have made an alliance and defeat Kaido. But theres a chance Kaido can call BM.

Kaido was a deterrent when speaking individually as GB mentioned. WB is at complete fault as garp mentioned that even if ace died , they would still come to fight marines and the casualty thing is BS as Kaido was going out of wano.
 
#11
Then you realize that WB, Shanks, Rayleigh and everyone who knew Oden all stayed away from Fighting Kaidou because it was Joyboy's destiny to Free Wano at the end of the 20 Years like Oden prophesized.

Rayleigh? Went to Laughtale.
WB? Learnt about Joyboy, D. Clan, Full History from Roger.
Oden? Screamed about how the World/Wano is waiting for Joyboy.
Shanks? Stole the fruit from CP0 so he knows what it is.

It's almost as simple as it's Joyboy's destiny to free Wano from Kaidou & not Shanks' or Whitebeard's or anyone else's fate to interrupt.
But the people of wano suffered for 20 years

this is just ridiculous
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I remember people used this argument against WB and it was already debunkable then.

Why has this resurface against Shanks now of all times? And including WB as an ally instead of being the target of defamation.
When was it debunked?

WB said he didn’t want to go because of casualties, which is a dumb excuse. Barely anyone died in the war.
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He's salty cause shanks 0.5 shotted his fav
Aaah... so this was about Kid being a failure, huh. People have the weirdest copes.
no this is a massive plot hole

Yeah it’s true for WB and Rayleigh too, but Shanks literally defines himself on how much he cares about his friends, so this is just odd to me.
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Oden was already dead. Why kill more of your friends to avenge one that’s already dead.
Luffy would have done it
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This is more so issue of WB than shanks. Logically shanks and WB could have made an alliance and defeat Kaido. But theres a chance Kaido can call BM.

Kaido was a deterrent when speaking individually as GB mentioned. WB is at complete fault as garp mentioned that even if ace died , they would still come to fight marines and the casualty thing is BS as Kaido was going out of wano.
It’s on both of their asses. They could have killed Kaido years ago but did nothing.
 
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Cruxroux

#13

“nobody hurts a friend of mine”

Meanwhile Kaido killed Oden and Lhanks did jack shit about it.
Like Luffy didn’t even know Oden. But the dude was literally Shanks’s nakama. Kaido murdered him and Shanks did absolutely nothing.

imagine if Shanks did what Luffy did and amassed a giant alliance to kill Kaido.
  • Mihawk(goes to wano to fight swordsmen)
  • WB
  • Rayleigh
could have easily defeated kaido

But no, he waited for Luffy to do all the work. What a fraud.
Shanks Character is more like someone who balances the world.
Even if shanks killed Kaido , who was gonna take his place back then? The power balance would have threw the world in chaos.
What if WG took over wano after Kaido is dead? Free weapons and slavery for them.
And It would have resulted in a lot of casualities.

Rayleigh didn't do shit about Ace dying , bro watched in 4K.
WB didn't bother to go after BB after he killed Thatch , rather stopped ace as well.
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Assuming mihawk would accept his invite lol, you gotta remember that mihawk was busy running from strong fighters and bullying small time pirates, he didnt want to face an emperor crew lol.



Pretty high chance that mihawk never went to wano.

Whitebeard knew he was too old to beat kaido + didnt want to risk his family life on top of having the weakest yonko crew imo.

Rayleigh wasnt stronger than kaido and was also hiding from marines throughout the years.
Stop reading two piece.

:pepecopium:
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

#14
Even if all of them were to go to Wano, they would be defeated. The narrative revolves around Joyboy being the one to bring down Kaido, or the new generation that Oden pointed out would emerge 20 years after his death, and he made sure to state that they would be the only ones capable of it. Everyone else who attempted to defeat Kaido, no matter who they are, would be defeated.

Even without setting foot on Laugh Tale, Kaido knew who would defeat him in the future. The guy is truly the king of wisdom.
 
#15
Azure Dragon vs Nika was always Fated to happen. Why do you think Shandians Sacrifice themselves for Blue Serpents? And Calgara's Daughter believed that She would be meeting Nika by doing so?

Not only that, but Noland was Calgara's Equal, however their Fight was ruined because of an Interference, which Oda repeated multiple times, Dorry & Brogy's Duel was ruined by Mr. 3, the same happened to Kaidou vs Oden, Zoro vs Killer, Luffy vs Katakuri & who knows what else.

The idea is clear, Original Nika was Killed by Original Azure Dragon due to interference from a Third-Party.
We already know that Nika existed before, and Ryugu Kingdom + Birka City + Shandians confirm that Azure Dragon also existed before (Real)
 
#16
Shanks and WB won’t shed more blood over someone they can’t bring back. Maybe if Kaido mocked Oden‘s death in front of Shanks/WB then they’ll retaliate. Invading an entire country for revenge is not a smart idea, they’re not some Naruto character or something lol.
This actually hurts WB more than Shanks though, Shanks is already an established pacifist. It was WB who was introduced as this “don’t fuck with me and anyone I know” type of guy.
 
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Herrera95

#18
Oden denied any help from Roger crew. So Shanks has nothing to do about it.

But yes he is a fraud since he waited his former enemies to be dethroned before going after One Piece.
 
#19
But the people of wano suffered for 20 years

this is just ridiculous
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When was it debunked?

WB said he didn’t want to go because of casualties, which is a dumb excuse. Barely anyone died in the war.
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no this is a massive plot hole

Yeah it’s true for WB and Rayleigh too, but Shanks literally defines himself on how much he cares about his friends, so this is just odd to me.
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Luffy would have done it
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It’s on both of their asses. They could have killed Kaido years ago but did nothing.
Kaido was him :myman:
 
#20


Mihawk is busy sweating, he couldn't go to Wano. Mihawk didn't want any smoke with Shanks even when Marines were his ally in Marineford.

WB already told you why.

Rayleigh is retired, he himself said he was lucky that Teach chose to accept his deal, because he couldn't win, there is no deal for fighting Kaido, only losing.

Shanks stopped Kaido from going to Marineford.
 
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