Bougya Shanks is a massive bum and I have spent years defending an illusion

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
Zoro fans in a nutshell:
1) Put astronomical expectations on Zoro and Oda (swordsmen are strongest in OP verse and by extension Zoro will be strongest character EOS)
Ryuma, Mihawk, Xebec, Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks, Shamrock, Ghandi, Garling, Oden, Fujitora etc... are all top tier/ some near God tier swordman. So yes, pretty much the most lethal and strongest group are swordsman.

2) Blame, abuse, and call Oda and One Piece shit story if it does not happen
It's already happened.
 
So yes, pretty much the most lethal and strongest group are swordsman.
Swordsman? Yes
Black swordsman? No, except Ryuma.

It's already happened.
Are you sure?

From my another post:

top tiers with blades

Roger : No black blade
Shanks : no black blade
Rayleigh : no black blade
Gaban : no black blade
Oden : no black blade
Xebec : no black blade
Whitebeard : no black blade
Shiki : no black blade
Big mom : no black blade
Harald : no black blade
Garling : no black blade
Shamrock : no black blade
Nika : No black blade

Only Joyboy having a black blade can save Mihawk agenda.

Sad, we have to rely on another character reveal instead of just Mihawk proving himself the strongest on panel through past or present confirmed kill of top tier(s).
 

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
Swordsman? Yes
Black swordsman? No, except Ryuma.
What does being a black swordsman have to do with Zoro surpassing all of them.?

It will happen regardless. 😂

as they're all.... swordsmen.

Roger : No black blade
Shanks : no black blade
Rayleigh : no black blade
Gaban : no black blade
Oden : no black blade
Xebec : no black blade
Whitebeard : no black blade
Shiki : no black blade
Big mom : no black blade
Harald : no black blade
Garling : no black blade
Shamrock : no black blade
Nika : No black blade

Only Joyboy having a black blade can save Mihawk agenda.

Sad, we have to rely on another character reveal instead of just Mihawk proving himself the strongest on panel through past or present confirmed kill of top tier(s).
Why does Mihawk need dead people for agenda?

Alive top tiers are below him. Shanksu, Fuji Shamrock, Garling, Ghandi.

And what does it matter if they don't have a black blade? It's upscale, the less people have it. Only Mihawk achieved the feat.
 
What does being a black swordsman have to do with Zoro surpassing all of them.?
Oh boy it has everything to do with top tier swordsmen having black blade.
Why does Mihawk need dead people for agenda?
Not agenda, to prove black blade's worth. It is reasonable to doubt that black blades are not needed to be top tier.
And what does it matter if they don't have a black blade? It's upscale, the less people have it. Only Mihawk achieved the feat.
How is it an upscale? Are you implying that Mihawk > Xebec? And by extension all the Yonkos?
 

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
Oh boy it has everything to do with top tier swordsmen having black blade.

Not agenda, to prove black blade's worth. It is reasonable to doubt that black blades are not needed to be top tier.
And what does black blade "worth" have to do with every swordman alive being below Mihawk?
🥱

Also yeah? I mean you don't need black blade to be top tier. Plenty without it.

How is it an upscale? Are you implying that Mihawk > Xebec? And by extension all the Yonkos?
Xebec isn’t yonko tier, he's far above them scrubs.

And yes.
:catrude:
 
Swordsman? Yes
Black swordsman? No, except Ryuma.


Are you sure?

From my another post:

top tiers with blades

Roger : No black blade
Shanks : no black blade
Rayleigh : no black blade
Gaban : no black blade
Oden : no black blade
Xebec : no black blade
Whitebeard : no black blade
Shiki : no black blade
Big mom : no black blade
Harald : no black blade
Garling : no black blade
Shamrock : no black blade
Nika : No black blade

Only Joyboy having a black blade can save Mihawk agenda.

Sad, we have to rely on another character reveal instead of just Mihawk proving himself the strongest on panel through past or present confirmed kill of top tier(s).
You forgot chadbull of the ebony blade
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What does being a black swordsman have to do with Zoro surpassing all of them.?

It will happen regardless. 😂

as they're all.... swordsmen.



Why does Mihawk need dead people for agenda?

Alive top tiers are below him. Shanksu, Fuji Shamrock, Garling, Ghandi.

And what does it matter if they don't have a black blade? It's upscale, the less people have it. Only Mihawk achieved the feat.
Why do you bring up "top tiers" and then in the following post you bring up that "dead people" don't matter?
Do they matter only when they fuel your agendA?
 
this chapter changed absolutely nothing
You would be surprised how many fans worldwide pushed agenda that Kamusari = blunt attack ( since it does not cut ) and blunt attacks are not part of swordsmanship so Shanks is not included as Mihawk title victim.

This chapter proved Xebec blunt attacks skills are considered swordsmanship and even same japanese kanjis were used when Xebec and Mihawk sword skills were mentioned.

Dumb agenda that got destroyed into oblivion.
 
You would be surprised how many fans worldwide pushed agenda that Kamusari = blunt attack ( since it does not cut ) and blunt attacks are not part of swordsmanship so Shanks is not included as Mihawk title victim.

This chapter proved Xebec blunt attacks skills are considered swordsmanship and even same japanese kanjis were used when Xebec and Mihawk sword skills were mentioned.

Dumb agenda that got destroyed into oblivion.
It's not a sword, is a sabre.
The cope must survive
 
And what does black blade "worth" have to do with every swordman alive being below Mihawk?
🥱

Also yeah? I mean you don't need black blade to be top tier. Plenty without it.



Xebec isn’t yonko tier, he's far above them scrubs.

And yes.
:catrude:
Interesting.

When is Mihawk killing Akainu? Since he is greater than Xebec, he should have killed at least 2 admirals? Right?

Or when will Imu beg Mihawk to make a pact; Let imu rule the world while Mihawk can enjoy his life without being bothered?

Where does black blade fit in Elbaf mural, the monsters, ancient weapons, and characters shown in it? Is Mihawk, a black blade wielder > all of them?

What was the role of black blade wielders in previous world wars?

I wish you good luck that Oda has planned it to this extent for Mihawk.
 

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
Interesting.

When is Mihawk killing Akainu? Since he is greater than Xebec, he should have killed at least 2 admirals? Right?

Or when will Imu beg Mihawk to make a pact; Let imu rule the world while Mihawk can enjoy his life without being bothered?

Where does black blade fit in Elbaf mural, the monsters, ancient weapons, and characters shown in it? Is Mihawk, a black blade wielder > all of them?

What was the role of black blade wielders in previous world wars?

I wish you good luck that Oda has planned it to this extent for Mihawk.
I wish you luck in betting against Mihawk.
 
There's a reason you were scarce this week and most the tards are no where to be seen.
You mean like the last chapter? yeah called having a life, i dont rage quit the forum or selfban like you and your retard posee acting like buttblasted children :risisure:
How can it do that lmfao
Every time the narrator or characters hype up certain characters they use the swordsmanship
For shanks they use the word haki
Including the sword attack he did, no where was his swordsmanship hyped
This taken account the headcanon that Oda himself debunked that named attacks mean something btw.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
You mean like the last chapter? yeah called having a life, i dont rage quit the forum or selfban like you and your retar posee :risisure:

Every time the narrator or characters hype up certain characters they use the swordsmanship
For shanks they use the word haki
Including the sword attack at did, no where was his swordsmanship hyped
This taken account the headcanon that Oda himself debunked that named attacks mean something btw.
There's no difference between what shanks and xebec do lmfao
In fact xebec CANT EVEN DO that swordsmanship WITHOUT ADVANCED HAKI
Except oda did hype shanks swordsmanship in mihawks bounty that shanks was used as the bar for swordsmanship that the wss IS EVEN BETTER THAN.

Even more swordsmen added to zoros floor that shit on gabumji
 
There's no difference between what shanks and xebec do lmfao
In fact xebec CANT EVEN DO that swordsmanship WITHOUT ADVANCED HAKI
Except oda did hype shanks swordsmanship in mihawks bounty that shanks was used as the bar for swordsmanship that the wss IS EVEN BETTER THAN.

Even more swordsmen added to zoros floor that shit on gabumji
Spamming lmafo or typing stuff in caps will not let you gaslight me or strawman the point that oda says Haki instead of swordsmanship, despite you saying these words are interchangable
So unless you are saying Oda has some stage 5 schizopherinia like some users here there is a reason for that, and one being having superior swordsmanship doesnt grant you better or higher haki, otherwise he would not use differnt words
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Spamming lmafo or typing stuff in caps will not let you gaslight me or strawman the point that oda says Haki instead of swordsmanship, despite you saying these words are interchangable
So unless you are saying Oda has some stage 5 schizopherinia like some users here there is a reason for that, and one being having superior swordsmanship doesnt grant you better or higher haki, otherwise he would not use differnt words
YOUR OPINION as always MEANS FUCK ALL.

Oda calls it many things
Ryou mantra

We had wano where the scabbards had odens techniques and odens ryou because IT IS INTERCHANGABLE

Oda doesnt see it as different things

Yes it does

Superior swordsmanship means mihawks haki on sword > shanks haki on sword

Like xebecs REKNOWNED swordsmanship CAN ONLY BE DONE WITH ADVANCEF HAKI

There is no way to weasel out of this
 
YOUR OPINION as always MEANS FUCK ALL.
Its not my opinion, caps lock typing little bro. Every time Oda shown shanks display, he didnt say Swordsmanship, he said haki
This include the scene where he 1:1 clashed with whitebeard like Harald and Rocks this chapter. You will find in that chapter "his haki is amazing as ever" not 1 word of "swordsmanship"
Wanne see the kanji? :Kizgrin: Your headcanon doesnt matter here, defintive proof that being a better swordsman is not associated with having better and more haki.
Until you can disprove it with manga pages, your headcanon deostn amtter to me :StrawMan:
 
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