Character Discussion Shanks is not Roger 2.0

#1
What is with this stupid claims that snitch Shanks is Roger 2.0 , its laughable from overall status to strength level.

Roger is most important character beside Luffy , his deeds are reason one piece exists as manga. He did what no one in last 800 years did he conquered grand line and become pirate king. No character got portrayal and fame Roger has.

Roger is the one who started a new era , great era of piracy . His words ignited the flames inside poeple hearts, flames that still burn today. Ace novel explained that before Roger world gov. main problems were not pirates at all . All of that started because of Roger.

What did snitch Shanks do comparable to this ???

Answer is literally nothing.

Roger is special individual he has voice of all things , mysterious ability shared with Luffy main character . If Shanks is so special and another version of Roger why he doesnt have voice of all things ????

Also about power level. There isn´t any statement of portrayal that puts any shade on Roger power. He was never called inferior to anyone unlike snitch Shanks .He was equal to Whitebeard , character that is called world strongest man and world strongest pirate , character that was said to be capable of destroying the world. Kaido praised Rogers haki and how with it he conquered the world. As said by Crocodile there are thousands of pirates out there crying their tears because they were unable to defeat Roger and WHitebeard.

Roger bounty and overall portrayal are far superior than Shanks.

Shanks on the other hand got scarred by weakest version of Blackbeard one without single devil fruit. His sword skill was directly stated to be inferior to Mihawk and Mihawk is one called world strongest swordsman not Shanks. He lost his arm against sea monster volume 1 Luffy one shot.

Only thing Shanks have comparable to Roger is their fighting style which is not surprising at all. None of them have devil fruit so its clear their power would be Haki , like with pretty much any other character who does not have devil fruit. Shanks being swordsman and using same move as Roger is their only real similarity which again is perfectly understandable because he was on his ship and got trained by his right hand Rayleigh.

Its pretty clear Shanks has nothing to do with Roger , he doest even share same hair color unlike Luffy lol . Shanks aint the one who will repeat Roger feat of becoming pirate king , all of this is reserved for Luffy .
 
#5
Shanks on the other hand got scarred by weakest version of Blackbeard one without single devil fruit. .
Its a misconception that Teach needs DFs like Zolo begging power from Enma and special swords or begging help from Law's teleportation on the rooftop.

All Teach wanted is fair fight without DF powers when he wanted Darkness DF.

While Darkness increases his attack power with AoE attacks, Darkness still doesn't give defensive ability like other Logia abilities gives.

So Teach's defense was no upgraded with Darkness DF like other Logias, if Teach wanted to be DF reliant, he would be ok with taking any other Logia like Admirals.

While Darkness has attack power of other Logias, it doesn't have defense power of other Logias.

Teach traded Logia defense with canceling other DF abilities.

Its debatable that which one you would choose:
  • Great Attack power and defensive power: usual Logias
  • Great Attack power, no defensive power but canceling other DF abilities instead: Darkness Logia

Teach wanted 2nd option because he was so sure of his Haki and physical abilities, only someone with great physical stats and Haki can be successful while using Darkness Logia, because it gives no defense unlike other Logias.

DFless Teach has mountain level Haki, as we see vs Mihawk's sword technique, Zolo needs special swords + Haki to block weaker slashes than mountain slash, special sword upgrade = DF equivalent, if Zolo uses special sword + Haki to block then Teach should've used DF + Haki to block, but all Teach needed was 1 barehand not even 2 barehands.



DFless Teach is comparable to Post-Wano Zolo, definitely better than Rooftop Zolo.
. His sword skill was directly stated to be inferior to Mihawk and Mihawk is one called world strongest swordsman not Shanks. He lost his arm against sea monster volume 1 Luffy one shot.
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His skill with sword is inferior. Roger didn't have that WGS skill title, when he is equal to Mihawk's canonical superior WB. Why Shanks should be WGS when Roger wasn't?

If Mihawk was superior to Shanks, he should be able to beat him when Shanks wasn't even Emperor.

''Settle things'':



Since some ZKKclowns uses Anime to argue, its also ''settle things'' in Anime as well.



When Pre-Prime Shanks and Mihawk fought, Mihawk is 4 years older than Shanks, and Mihawk was already stated to be famous pirate since Roger's execution (years before their duel), so its natural to assume Mihawk reached his prime before Shanks since we know Shanks wasn't an Emperor when they fought, but its unknown if Mihawk was close to being WGS or if he was WGS at the time they fought.

Still Mihawk says ''settle things'' meaning that;
Either Pre-prime Shanks beat Mihawk or it was a draw.

What is with this stupid claims that snitch Shanks is Roger 2.0 , its laughable from overall status to strength level.

Roger is most important character beside Luffy , his deeds are reason one piece exists as manga. He did what no one in last 800 years did he conquered grand line and become pirate king. No character got portrayal and fame Roger has.

Roger is the one who started a new era , great era of piracy . His words ignited the flames inside poeple hearts, flames that still burn today. Ace novel explained that before Roger world gov. main problems were not pirates at all . All of that started because of Roger.

What did snitch Shanks do comparable to this ???

Answer is literally nothing.

Roger is special individual he has voice of all things , mysterious ability shared with Luffy main character . If Shanks is so special and another version of Roger why he doesnt have voice of all things ????

Also about power level. There isn´t any statement of portrayal that puts any shade on Roger power. He was never called inferior to anyone unlike snitch Shanks .He was equal to Whitebeard , character that is called world strongest man and world strongest pirate , character that was said to be capable of destroying the world. Kaido praised Rogers haki and how with it he conquered the world. As said by Crocodile there are thousands of pirates out there crying their tears because they were unable to defeat Roger and WHitebeard.

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  • Roger didn't show future sight yet
  • Roger didn't hurt an Admiral from miles away with his Haki yet
  • Roger didn't beat a 3 billion pirate yet

If Mihawk's title puts him above Shanks by default, why Kaido, who lives in OP world and more knowledgeable than ZKKfans doesn't put Mihawk in his top 5 list?



How important for Shanks to be on this list? Even Rayleigh, Garp or Big mom isn't in this so thats how impressive. While Mihawk is being equal partners with Crocodile to save his butt from Marines.

Reminder that Shanks was holding back vs WB and still splitted heavens:



Shanks wasn't even using his no touch technique vs WB.

Its pretty clear Shanks has nothing to do with Roger , he doest even share same hair color unlike Luffy lol . Shanks aint the one who will repeat Roger feat of becoming pirate king , all of this is reserved for Luffy .
  • Roger gave his straw-hat to Shanks.
  • They literally use same style Kamusari.
  • Buggy believed Shanks was going to replace Roger, then got mad and disappointed just because Shanks said he isn't ready for that yet in Loguetown.
 
#6
Roger is just a legend.

But his accomplishments were easier at his time. Shanks was part of his crew, so he is also part of Roger's legacy.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#8
Its a misconception that Teach needs DFs like Zolo begging power from Enma and special swords or Law's teleportation on rooftop.

All Teach wanted is fair fight without DF powers when he wanted Darkness DF. While Darkness increases his attack power with AoE attacks, Darkness still doesn't give defensive ability like other Logia abilities gives. So Teach's defense was no upgraded with Darkness DF like other Logias, if Teach wanted to be DF reliant, he would be ok with taking any other Logia like Admirals. While Darkness has attack power of other Logias, it doesn't have defense power of other Logias.

Teach traded Logia defense with canceling other DF abilities.

Its debatable that which one you would choose:
1-Great Attack power and defensive power (usual Logias)
2-Great Attack power, no defensive power but canceling other DF abilities instead.

Teach wanted 2nd option because he was so sure of his Haki and physical abilities, only someone with great physical stats and Haki can be successful while using Darkness Logia, because it gives no defense unlike other Logias.

DFless Teach has mountain level Haki, as we see vs Mihawk's sword technique, Zolo needs special swords + Haki to block weaker slashes than mountain slash, special sword upgrade = DF equivalent, if Zolo uses special sword + Haki to block then Teach should've used DF + Haki to block, but all Teach needed was 1 barehand not even 2 barehands.



DFless Teach is comparable to Post-Wano Zolo, definitely better than Rooftop Zolo.

His skill with sword is inferior. Roger didn't have that WGS skill title, when he is equal to Mihawk's canonical superior WB. Why Shanks should be WGS when Roger wasn't?

If Mihawk was superior to Shanks, he should be able to beat him when Shanks wasn't even Emperor.

''Settle things'':



Since some ZKKclowns uses Anime to argue, its also ''settle things'' in Anime as well.



When Pre-Prime Shanks and Mihawk fought, Mihawk is 4 years older than Shanks, and Mihawk was already stated to be famous pirate since Roger's execution (years before their duel), so its natural to assume Mihawk reached his prime before Shanks since we know Shanks wasn't an Emperor when they fought, but its unknown if Mihawk was close to being WGS or if he was WGS at the time they fought.

Still Mihawk says ''settle things'' meaning that;
Either Pre-prime Shanks beat Mihawk or it was a draw.


-Roger didn't show future sight yet
-Roger didn't hurt an Admiral from miles away with his Haki yet
-Roger didn't beat a 3 billion pirate yet

If Mihawk's title puts him above Shanks by default, why Kaido, who lives in OP world and more knowledgeable than ZKKfans doesn't put Mihawk in his top 5 list?



How important for Shanks to be on this list? Even Rayleigh, Garp or Big mom isn't in this so thats how impressive. While Mihawk is being equal partners with Crocodile to save his butt from Marines.

Reminder that Shanks was holding back vs WB and still splitted heavens:



Shanks wasn't even using his no touch technique vs WB.


-Roger gave his straw-hat to Shanks.
-They literally use same style.
-Buggy believed Shanks was going to replace Roger, then got mad and disappointed just because Shanks said he isn't ready for that yet in Loguetown.
Hybrid kaido folds current fatbeard Let alone fruitless fat beard who is barely commander level.
Current Teach ain't doing what zoro did to kaido
 
#10
Its a misconception that Teach needs DFs like Zolo begging power from Enma and special swords or begging help from Law's teleportation on the rooftop.

All Teach wanted is fair fight without DF powers when he wanted Darkness DF.

While Darkness increases his attack power with AoE attacks, Darkness still doesn't give defensive ability like other Logia abilities gives.

So Teach's defense was no upgraded with Darkness DF like other Logias, if Teach wanted to be DF reliant, he would be ok with taking any other Logia like Admirals.

While Darkness has attack power of other Logias, it doesn't have defense power of other Logias.

Teach traded Logia defense with canceling other DF abilities.

Its debatable that which one you would choose:
  • Great Attack power and defensive power: usual Logias
  • Great Attack power, no defensive power but canceling other DF abilities instead: Darkness Logia

Teach wanted 2nd option because he was so sure of his Haki and physical abilities, only someone with great physical stats and Haki can be successful while using Darkness Logia, because it gives no defense unlike other Logias.

DFless Teach has mountain level Haki, as we see vs Mihawk's sword technique, Zolo needs special swords + Haki to block weaker slashes than mountain slash, special sword upgrade = DF equivalent, if Zolo uses special sword + Haki to block then Teach should've used DF + Haki to block, but all Teach needed was 1 barehand not even 2 barehands.



DFless Teach is comparable to Post-Wano Zolo, definitely better than Rooftop Zolo.

His skill with sword is inferior. Roger didn't have that WGS skill title, when he is equal to Mihawk's canonical superior WB. Why Shanks should be WGS when Roger wasn't?

If Mihawk was superior to Shanks, he should be able to beat him when Shanks wasn't even Emperor.

''Settle things'':



Since some ZKKclowns uses Anime to argue, its also ''settle things'' in Anime as well.



When Pre-Prime Shanks and Mihawk fought, Mihawk is 4 years older than Shanks, and Mihawk was already stated to be famous pirate since Roger's execution (years before their duel), so its natural to assume Mihawk reached his prime before Shanks since we know Shanks wasn't an Emperor when they fought, but its unknown if Mihawk was close to being WGS or if he was WGS at the time they fought.

Still Mihawk says ''settle things'' meaning that;
Either Pre-prime Shanks beat Mihawk or it was a draw.


  • Roger didn't show future sight yet
  • Roger didn't hurt an Admiral from miles away with his Haki yet
  • Roger didn't beat a 3 billion pirate yet

If Mihawk's title puts him above Shanks by default, why Kaido, who lives in OP world and more knowledgeable than ZKKfans doesn't put Mihawk in his top 5 list?



How important for Shanks to be on this list? Even Rayleigh, Garp or Big mom isn't in this so thats how impressive. While Mihawk is being equal partners with Crocodile to save his butt from Marines.

Reminder that Shanks was holding back vs WB and still splitted heavens:



Shanks wasn't even using his no touch technique vs WB.


  • Roger gave his straw-hat to Shanks.
  • They literally use same style Kamusari.
  • Buggy believed Shanks was going to replace Roger, then got mad and disappointed just because Shanks said he isn't ready for that yet in Loguetown.
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Akshually Oda is the reason the manga exists
Thats because Rogers spirit visited him in his dream and forced Oda to write it.
 
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