Character Discussion Shiryu needs to feed his sword a DF to be a threat to Zoro

[Sword God Ryuma]

''There was no time to use Haki''
-Said retarded Ladmiralclown



This is the first time I hear someone can't use CoA while moving fast

Imagine Luffy not using CoA while using G4 Snakeman speed, thats how stupid you are.


Moron, size has nothing to do with, you think Shiryu can't cut a mountain like SHawk when Teach blocks that Shawk mountain slash with 1 hand only CoA and doesn't even get paper cut?

Killer's sonic scythe changes size when its used vs Dragon Kaido and vs Hawkins, it has nothing to do with opponent size. Shiryu's stab would fuck Kaido up more than Zolo's paper cut, it would increase in size easily like Killer's sonic scythe, its easy for Shiryu to do that.

Comparing scabbards pathetic attack power is only something Zkktards like you do and you didn't even know Denjiro couldn't stab Kaido fully lmao you learn that from me, he was too weak. Denjiro couldn't even tickle Garp in same position you dumbass zkktard lmao.

Clown ofcourse Shiryu can cut mountain dumbass. I was talking about Denjiro sword even being all the way through wouldn't come out thevother side cause Kaido massive he hit him from the side.

Increase size my ass lmao. Clown making shit up.

That attack not even scaring Kaido your a special kind of stupid

 

[Erkan12]

Clown ofcourse Shiryu can cut mountain dumbass. I was talking about Denjiro sword even being all the way through wouldn't come out thevother side cause Kaido massive he hit him from the side.

Increase size my ass lmao. Clown making shit up.

That attack not even scaring Kaido your a special kind of stupid

Denjiro's pathetic stab didn't even fully land you retarded shit didn't even know that learn it from me you clown

Shiryu can pierce Garp's CoA which is top tier if he wasn't Garp would have no chance fighting Kaido you moron, of course Shiryu's stab would fuck Kaido up, you can cry all you want Zolo's paper cut isn't a shit.

 

[Redboy776]

If there is someone who will get negged by current zoro its kizaru. Shiryu will beat zoro worst than king did.

 

[Bil02]

If there is someone who will get negged by current zoro its kizaru. Shiryu will beat zoro worst than king did.

Due to a gimmick ability as usual,sounds well too familiar at this point.
Then Zoro gets some flashback he never really gave much thought about before and one-shots.
Rince and repeat.

 

[Gol D. Bullet]

I do like the idea of Shiryu getting a second DF for his sword.
But I think it would be Diamond Fruit. Jozu has been missing with no update from Marco so it's very likely he's dead. Because I have a hard time believing that Teach wouldn't see value in the Diamond fruit after being a comrade with Jozu for more then 20 years. Long time ago I believed that Burgess would have it because it seemed like a good fit but years later He has the Buff Buff Fruit. Perhaps Shiryu took it for himself to increase his sword's durability but took the fruit in a dirty manner hence Burgess's distrust of the man back in Dressrosa.

Don't get me wrong I do like the idea of Shiryu's sword eating at Kaido's Dragon Fruit but based on the way Oda wrote Kaido's end being vague, it gives me the impression that Oda wanted to get rid of Kaido without killing him beacuse he knew it would reappear again. Plus its such a broken fruit, being combined with a dangerous sword would Shiryu perhaps too powerful for Zoro to fight.

But its cool idea and I hope Oda uses the opportunity for Shiryu cause it would be wild to watch. I just like the idea of Teach having three devil fruits while Shiryu having two fruits to cement his place as the right hand of the Yonko.

 

[milluki]

I do like the idea of Shiryu getting a second DF for his sword.
But I think it would be Diamond Fruit. Jozu has been missing with no update from Marco so it's very likely he's dead. Because I have a hard time believing that Teach wouldn't see value in the Diamond fruit after being a comrade with Jozu for more then 20 years. Long time ago I believed that Burgess would have it because it seemed like a good fit but years later He has the Buff Buff Fruit. Perhaps Shiryu took it for himself to increase his sword's durability but took the fruit in a dirty manner hence Burgess's distrust of the man back in Dressrosa.

Don't get me wrong I do like the idea of Shiryu's sword eating at Kaido's Dragon Fruit but based on the way Oda wrote Kaido's end being vague, it gives me the impression that Oda wanted to get rid of Kaido without killing him beacuse he knew it would reappear again. Plus its such a broken fruit, being combined with a dangerous sword would Shiryu perhaps too powerful for Zoro to fight.

But its cool idea and I hope Oda uses the opportunity for Shiryu cause it would be wild to watch. I just like the idea of Teach having three devil fruits while Shiryu having two fruits to cement his place as the right hand of the Yonko.

i doubt you could put the diamond fruit into a sword, i think it only works with zoans. jozu plays a big role in my headcanon, so i hope he is still alive hehe

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Lol, you act like Garp is some mid tier nobody. The man is literally one of the Strongest characters in the verse, even in his old age. Dude had an AdCoC bubble that encompassed a whole town. The dude is a monster.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Shiryu's stab did more damage to Garp than Zolo's paper cut did to Kaido, anyone denies this is a retard.

kaido is a million times more durable than garp is
odd comparison.

shiryu wont scratch kaido even with a sneak.

 

[Fn Lucci]

kaido is a million times more durable than garp is
odd comparison.

shiryu wont scratch kaido even with a sneak.

How dumb is this in light of Kinemon

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

How dumb is this in light of Kinemon

if erkan calls the scar a paper cut
then yes shiryu isnt scratching kaido

my point wasnt very hard to understand

 

[Moegara]

Come on, stop comparing Zoro to Shiryu. I first need a reason to believe Blackbeard can survive current Zoro before we talk about Shiryu.

 

[Fn Lucci]

if erkan calls the scar a paper cut
then yes shiryu isnt scratching kaido

my point wasnt very hard to understand

1. Who gives a shit about that guy
2. Scratch is incredibly vague. I scratch my arm when an ant bites it while a scratch from a lion's tongue can take your scalp. If this is the level that power scaling has fallen to, bullshit metaphors, then this whole thing is more lost than it should be

For all we know about Kaido as Oda conveniently writes him, he could just say something about wanting to see if he could be killed.

 

[Lion of Olympus]

Or Zoro just ain’t as strong as you think he is

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

1. Who gives a shit about that guy
2. Scratch is incredibly vague. I scratch my arm when an ant bites it while a scratch from a lion's tongue can take your scalp. If this is the level that power scaling has fallen to, bullshit metaphors, then this whole thing is more lost than it should be

For all we know about Kaido as Oda conveniently writes him, he could just say something about wanting to see if he could be killed.

you going on this weird useless rant that really wasnt needed because I was talking to erkan and you got in your feelings over a fact . shiryu without conquerors isnt doing shit to kaido. I gave a shit about what he said cause I clearly responded to it . I dont give a shit about this convo so continue this on your own.

 

[The White Crane]

''There was no time to use Haki''
-Said retarded Ladmiralclown



This is the first time I hear someone can't use CoA while moving fast

Imagine Luffy not using CoA while using G4 Snakeman speed, thats how stupid you are.


Moron, size has nothing to do with, you think Shiryu can't cut a mountain like SHawk when Teach blocks that Shawk mountain slash with 1 hand only CoA and doesn't even get paper cut?

Killer's sonic scythe changes size when its used vs Dragon Kaido and vs Hawkins, it has nothing to do with opponent size. Shiryu's stab would fuck Kaido up more than Zolo's paper cut, it would increase in size easily like Killer's sonic scythe, its easy for Shiryu to do that.

Comparing scabbards pathetic attack power is only something Zkktards like you do and you didn't even know Denjiro couldn't stab Kaido fully lmao you learn that from me, he was too weak. Denjiro couldn't even tickle Garp in same position you dumbass zkktard lmao.

If Shiryu can cut a mountain, then how come he didn't cut up Garp?

 

[Fn Lucci]

you going on this weird useless rant that really wasnt needed because I was talking to erkan and you got in your feelings over a fact . shiryu without conquerors isnt doing shit to kaido. I gave a shit about what he said cause I clearly responded to it . I dont give a shit about this convo so continue this on your own.

If I said who gives a shit it has nothing to do with feelings lol. The simple point is that he'll fight someone down the road who scarred Kaido, so that doesn't really make sense

 

[Herrera95]

Forget Zoro. Shiryuu is Sanji opponent

 

[Erkan12]

kaido is a million times more durable than garp is
odd comparison.

shiryu wont scratch kaido even with a sneak.

Yeah sure the guy that can take shots from Gol D. Roger and Xebec has million times worse defense. Its not like Garp was called Iron Garp and its not like he was taking Ad.CoC shots and keep going.

 

[Moegara]

Yeah sure the guy that can take shots from Gol D. Roger and Xebec has million times worse defense. Its not like Garp was called Iron Garp and its not like he was taking Ad.CoC shots and keep going.

Literally nothing suggests Garp's body is as difficult to cut as Kaido's. Just like Shanks' and Mihawk's aren't.

Their deal is that it's harder to land the slashes on them, and Shiryu used tactics and diversions for that, so he can't really be powerscaled in that regard (as opposed to Zoro, who callenged Kaido head on 1 vs 1 and still landed the attack).

Shiryu's feat just isn't comparable. Using your logic I could just bring up Zoro murdering full body coating Pica and call it a better feat than Shiryu's.



Shiryu likely has better attacks than one random stab, but don't overhype the random stab.

 

[Erkan12]

Literally nothing suggests Garp's body is as difficult to cut as Kaido's. Just like Shanks' and Mihawk's aren't.

Their deal is that it's harder to land the slashes on them, and Shiryu used tactics and diversions for that, so he can't really be powerscaled in that regard (as opposed to Zoro, who callenged Kaido head on 1 vs 1 and still landed the attack).

Shiryu's feat just isn't comparable. Using your logic I could just bring up Zoro murdering full body coating Pica and call it a better feat than Shiryu's.



Shiryu likely has better attacks than one random stab, but don't overhype the random stab.

Shut yo hole ZKK troll, Garp took Ad.CoC shots from Roger and Xebec just like vs Aokiji, and he kept going. He broke Aokiji's ice with Haki alone, his defenses top tiers only difference Kaido doesn't need to waste Haki to defend always due to his DF thats his advantage compared to other top tiers. Just like Kata's future sight Haki is limited, their Haki is limited, Kaido relies on DF to take fodder attacks and not waste Haki thats it.