Powers & Abilities Should advanced CoC be able to destroy cuffs?
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It's not headcanon. Zoro doesn't have Luffy's "Cuff destruction" Haki and he did this
Zoro could not cut Kaido with the others two swords yet not even with CoC haki that is why Kaido got a single cut instead of three.
Oden was able to make a double cut because he cut Kaido with his two swords.
I'll bring this over from the power scaling section, but this is more of a power analysis.
Luffy specifically stated advanced CoC penetrates DEEPER than advanced CoA.
So let me ask this: If advanced CoC penetrates DEEPER than advanced CoA, then shouldn't advanced CoC be enough to destroy cuffs? If it hurts Kaido, wtf are some cuffs?
Some people have mentioned the seastone, but Luffy was clearly touching the cuffs and he could use Haki. He could NOT use Haki with NERFED seastone cuffs in Udon. He only used Haki in Udon when cuffs were removed.
Luffy specifically stated advanced CoC penetrates DEEPER than advanced CoA.
So let me ask this: If advanced CoC penetrates DEEPER than advanced CoA, then shouldn't advanced CoC be enough to destroy cuffs? If it hurts Kaido, wtf are some cuffs?
Some people have mentioned the seastone, but Luffy was clearly touching the cuffs and he could use Haki. He could NOT use Haki with NERFED seastone cuffs in Udon. He only used Haki in Udon when cuffs were removed.
Yamato only know the stage of Ryuu when releases the attack as a barrier to hurt Kaido
However only Luffy reached the stage of Ryuu (armament) that can hurt from the inside… which is the type of mastery that is needed for the cuffs…. As shown with Rayleigh…
a person who can use the flow of Ryuu to only make barrier, may only enforces his attack with CoC in same concept of flow
a person who can use Ryuu to an even higher degree to destroy from inside (the top level as claimed by Hyogoro) can also enforce his attack with CoC…
But basically you have to know the Ryuu (armament) technique first and master how it’s done to be able to imbue it with CoC too in similar way
So Kaido and Big Mom can't break some cuffs? ACoC has a penetrating effect. That's how it damages damage.
You don't need ACoA to damage Kaido. Any attacked laced with CoC should be able to penetrate him.
You don't need ACoA to damage Kaido. Any attacked laced with CoC should be able to penetrate him.
yamato had the same issue
"You don't need ACoA to damage Kaido. Any attacked laced with CoC should be able to penetrate him"
lets back up sanjikun
zoro still did use ryou to scar kaido
if anything I would think of attacks coated in coc as an amplifier.
in most cases you do need acoa to damage kaido ,there are two levels to that however
the first being the barrier which seems common with samurai like hyo,the scabbards and zoro .
the second level which is a notch above is what allows luffy and ray to destroy the cuffs.
all the attacks we have seen that hurt kaido significantly are using coa in conjunction with coc.
oh right
luffy could only do so cause he was allowed to use haki while big mom and yamato couldnt since they were wearing seastone cuffs.hmm
sense I got from luffy taking it off was yamato would have been unable to do it on someone else tho.
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if we consider the thunder bagua
the first one
with haki
then yeah
luffy could only do so cause he was allowed to use haki while big mom and yamato couldnt since they were wearing seastone cuffs.hmm
sense I got from luffy taking it off was yamato would have been unable to do it on someone else tho.
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if we consider the thunder bagua
the first one
with haki
then yeah
Apparently someone in Reddit wrote that VCs stated Yamato's handcuffs have seastone. That must be some sort of mistake.
Luffy and Kid had NERFED seastone, and they still couldn't use Haki. Udon cuffs are actually not fully seastone, because they want prison labour. But even that disabled Luffy's Haki.
Luffy and Kid had NERFED seastone, and they still couldn't use Haki. Udon cuffs are actually not fully seastone, because they want prison labour. But even that disabled Luffy's Haki.
Apparently someone in Reddit wrote that VCs stated Yamato's handcuffs have seastone. That must be some sort of mistake.
Luffy and Kid had NERFED seastone, and they still couldn't use Haki. Udon cuffs are actually not fully seastone, because they want prison labour. But even that disabled Luffy's Haki.
Luffy and Kid had NERFED seastone, and they still couldn't use Haki. Udon cuffs are actually not fully seastone, because they want prison labour. But even that disabled Luffy's Haki.
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i mean what do you think
that she doesnt have adv coc which is why she cant take off the cuffs?