General & Others Should jzs solo the calamities if the others cant?
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Please.
Please.
Let them fight the Calamities and win by themselves. I'm perfectly fine with team battles if Oda wanted to switch it up. But we haven't had Zoro go all out and be pushed to desperation since Ennis Lobby in an actual fight. Kuma and Kizaru not withstanding. Sanji hasn't been given a good fight at all since Jabra.
Please.
Let them fight the Calamities and win by themselves. I'm perfectly fine with team battles if Oda wanted to switch it up. But we haven't had Zoro go all out and be pushed to desperation since Ennis Lobby in an actual fight. Kuma and Kizaru not withstanding. Sanji hasn't been given a good fight at all since Jabra.
Please please let them win by themselves with no help , how can they grow if they needed help to beat strong opponents, look at luffy he defeated 3 commander level characters and he still doesn’t look like a threat facing Kaido because he needed ALOT of help to beat Doffy cracker and kata
It doesn’t feel like he grew in power
he really feel like the same luffy from dressrosa (threat wise)
after wano luffy should be a solid yonko
Zoro sanji and jimbe should be the 1st 2nd 3rd commanders
So let them beat the calamities extreme difficulty by Themselves
It doesn’t feel like he grew in power
he really feel like the same luffy from dressrosa (threat wise)
after wano luffy should be a solid yonko
Zoro sanji and jimbe should be the 1st 2nd 3rd commanders
So let them beat the calamities extreme difficulty by Themselves
This is the time to do it. For all 10 of them. After this, while there may be some other villains/arcs, it would feel weird if Luffys crew surpassed every Blackbeard Titanic Captain or Marine Admirals/Vice Admirals/Gorosei/whatever IF they didnt actually grow this arc. The last 400 chapters? Fine. But now is when it needs to happen and I think Oda knows this. He has to realistically grow his main characters and now is the time to have them surpass major fighters.
The only logical way for Oda to give Zoro and Sanji a 1v1 fight against the commanders at this point is by having Sanji go up against Jack while Jack is nerfed cause otherwise it doesn't make sense. Then Oda can give Zoro his version of the Katakuri fight except with Queen a 2nd commander instead of a 1st Commander like Luffy. Cause we've seen Zoro can overcome extreme situations and grow mid fight so you can justify that for Zoro cause Zoro's kind of like Luffy in a way.
They have to. The monster trio (whichever version of that you subscribe to) can’t be drastically weaker than Luffy. If that were the case then we may as well be reading naruto. The Zo/San/Jin trio needs to fight competent opponents, that way Zo/San will be able to show off what they got in their timeskip and showcase their current power.
Besides if they don’t do it now, when? The red haired pirates are said to be the most balanced so Shanks subordinates are going to be stronger than Kaidos, and even if red haired and straw hats don’t meet; that means the BB pirates subordinates will be stronger than the Red Haired Pirates subordinates. Not to mention by the time of the war Zo/San need to be able to defeat admirals on their own.
so basically, yes. For the sake of story telling and linear structure Zo/San at least need to fight competent opponents in actual fights
Besides if they don’t do it now, when? The red haired pirates are said to be the most balanced so Shanks subordinates are going to be stronger than Kaidos, and even if red haired and straw hats don’t meet; that means the BB pirates subordinates will be stronger than the Red Haired Pirates subordinates. Not to mention by the time of the war Zo/San need to be able to defeat admirals on their own.
so basically, yes. For the sake of story telling and linear structure Zo/San at least need to fight competent opponents in actual fights
On a more positive scale-y way of thinking
If drake an ex tobiroppo member is around the same level as sanji/zoro
Wouldn't that make the rest if the crew close to them too if they're able to solo other tobiroppo members
Like even if drake was the strongest member hes still probably getting pushed around high diff by most
And nami being able to push zoro/drake that much too just sound weird imo
If drake an ex tobiroppo member is around the same level as sanji/zoro
Wouldn't that make the rest if the crew close to them too if they're able to solo other tobiroppo members
Like even if drake was the strongest member hes still probably getting pushed around high diff by most
And nami being able to push zoro/drake that much too just sound weird imo
Yes. Why not. Calamities doesn't seem to be a league above them so they can and should solo them.
I think most of the straw hats will have a solo fight or at least each of them will be the deciding factor in the opponent's defeat.
But even if we assume they don't, I'm more than happy to see Zoro and Sanji have their big solo fight. I've been waiting for it for such a long time now.
I think most of the straw hats will have a solo fight or at least each of them will be the deciding factor in the opponent's defeat.
But even if we assume they don't, I'm more than happy to see Zoro and Sanji have their big solo fight. I've been waiting for it for such a long time now.
Yes, it's time for ZSJ (and the rest of the crew as well) to have some solo Ws since going forward, they'll fight nothing but Yonko crews (YCs and vets alike)...
Yes, even Jinbe... When did he won a serious 1v1 fight anyway? Even the Ace flashback was a D...
But expecting a 1v1 for ZSJ, the rest of the crew (the mid tiers + Chopper at least) must also have 1v1... The gap mustn't be that huge between tiers post Wano... Luffy to ZSJ to mid tiers to Nami and Usopp, the power gap must not reach Yonko crew-like gap until they fight the 3rd Yonko...
Yes, even Jinbe... When did he won a serious 1v1 fight anyway? Even the Ace flashback was a D...
But expecting a 1v1 for ZSJ, the rest of the crew (the mid tiers + Chopper at least) must also have 1v1... The gap mustn't be that huge between tiers post Wano... Luffy to ZSJ to mid tiers to Nami and Usopp, the power gap must not reach Yonko crew-like gap until they fight the 3rd Yonko...
Everytime albino or noodle say sum the opposite will happen
Good thread
Good thread
The mid trio have definitely shown to be able to beat tobiroppo
Jinbe could probably beat jack
Nami can definitely beat one if she has Zeus
Chopper maybe but idk
And usopp so far cant from what hes shown but hopefully he shows more this arc
My only problem back then was the possibility if zsj were able to solo the all stars but the other crew were usless against their counterparts
Which didn't end up happening
I was arguing if the others couldn't they shouldn't but if they could (which they did) i didn't mind
My dumbass was STRUGGLING to understand what jzs meant.
Anyways, should they? No, but with the rushed pacing & plot they will.
One piece powerscaling is very flawed & personally it's better to view these fights thru the eyes of a child that really doesn't know any better. We all read various manga where the authors actually put in effort to not only show the fight but also show the progression leading up to it. One piece doesn't do that.
Anyways, should they? No, but with the rushed pacing & plot they will.
One piece powerscaling is very flawed & personally it's better to view these fights thru the eyes of a child that really doesn't know any better. We all read various manga where the authors actually put in effort to not only show the fight but also show the progression leading up to it. One piece doesn't do that.
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