Current Events Should Saul stayed dead?

[Reborn]

This is the only time I feel a character being alive could means more than him being dead.

First - O'Hara books. Saul played massive role in preserving the knowledge.

Second, Robin had harsh time until she met SHs. Lost everything. Saul being alive is good thing for her.

Third, him being alive would get tied to kuzan justice in the future.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

If all the P characters stayed dead. I don't think anyone would have a problem with this. It makes sense that he is alive.

 

[NexusLord]

I also think Kuina should have died twice.

I think it would have been more meaningful to Zoro if she first died falling down stairs and then a miracle brought her back but then she falls down the stairs again

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

I also think Kuina should have died twice.

I think it would have been more meaningful to Zoro if she first died falling down stairs and then a miracle brought her back but then she falls down the stairs again

Cmon, you cannot compare an irrelevant off screen death to one that was emotionally build up for so long. Kuina not being dead wouldnt be no ass pull and wouldnt take away from a great epic moment.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

I believe he should stayed dead, Oda has pulled way too many fake deaths and my tolerance is way past that. Don't mean last chapter wasn't sweet though.
I'd like for Oda to explain if Saul ever tried to search for Robin.
Also it's kind of ruin Kuzan actions in retrospective as the only reason why he left Robin alive was because he wanted to honor Saul legacy after "killing him".

Second, Robin had harsh time until she met SHs. Lost everything. Saul being alive is good thing for her.

While as I stated above the last chapter was sweet I don't really agree with this argument about it being needed for Robin (that is also in the poll) . Yeah Robin's life was hell but isn't the whole point of Enies Lobby that she finally found a family where she is truly happy and moved on from her horrible past?
The reunion was wholesome but in itself it hardly changes anything for Robin's character, it's more of a fanservice thing because the common one piece fan loves these kind of tearjerker moments.

 

[Reborn]

I believe he should stayed dead, Oda has pulled way too many fake deaths and my tolerance is way past that. Don't mean last chapter wasn't sweet though.
I'd like for Oda to explain if Saul ever tried to search for Robin.
Also it's kind of ruin Kuzan actions in retrospective as the only reason why he left Robin alive was because he wanted to honor Saul legacy after "killing him".


While as I stated above the last chapter was sweet I don't really agree with this argument about it being needed for Robin (that is also in the poll) . Yeah Robin's life was hell but isn't the whole point of Enies Lobby that she finally found a family where she is truly happy and moved on from her horrible past?
The reunion was wholesome but in itself it hardly changes anything for Robin's character, it's more of a fanservice thing because the common one piece fan loves these kind of tearjerker moments.

It's not about it was needed for Robin but her getting reunion with Saul is a good thing for her - you can say a happy moment after she lost everyone.

And, I don't see this as fanservice moment - not yet because I think oda has kept saul alive more something more important - Ohara knowledge and Kuzan plot getting some more development

 

[Just a member]

At this point, who cares? Oda has done so many fake deaths and questionable choices that honestly I don't even think at this as a problem.

 

[Chiji_]

Doesn’t really matter to me considering the man is a giant there’s no way he would die to some burning considering he wasn’t badly harmed before the freezing, it’s like the most believable case of a character surviving something. But I get why ppl would be upset due to how many times characters beat the odds but this one is actually truly plausible.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

It was a great chapter and an emotional moment. Saul should be dead but bringing back characters who should be dead is a theme that has been constant even since pre-TS, it's bad writing but it's not surprising. Might as well accept it for what it is. The Robin and Saul moment itself was extremely well done though, first time I felt emotion reading this manga (aside from the glorious Godking Shanks chapters) in a long long time.

 

[ShinichiMugi]

About Ohara: isnt it unrealistic that every Ohara person was in that ship that Akainu destroyed? I always had the opinion that some people somehow survived,because how could everyone stay in just one ship? By the way about Saul,it was a beautiful reunion,and lets see if he will reveal something big for the story or not.

 

[Fn Lucci]

What's crazy is that everyone else from her flashback is still dead.

But if there's one problem it'll probably be the convenience of Mr Hot Kizu be essentially a family member of the crew. The game is still rigged in the underdog's favor

 

[MonsterKaido]

No. Robin deserves some love.

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

No. Robin deserves some love.

She deserves shit, its a fictional character

 

[MonochromeYoru]

First - O'Hara books. Saul played massive role in preserving the knowledge.

Easily coulda repurposed that so the Revs were the ones that preserved the books.
You know? Actually giving SOME fucking importance to the organization that is supposed to fight against the WG?
Dragon was there in Ohara. So was punk. They coulda easily came to the same conclusion to protect the legacy of Ohara. Didn't need to be giants at all.

Second, Robin had harsh time until she met SHs. Lost everything. Saul being alive is good thing for her.

Sure it's a sweet moment.
But it's achieved at the cost of cheapening her flashback a bit.
Saul's final words to her were that she would find friends as long as she continued to struggle and live.
It's supposed to be a bittersweet moment when we come out of the flashback and the friends Saul said she would find, are there defending him.
But now, Saul is also alive and well. So the last words might as well have been "Survive for 22 years and we can reunite"

Third, him being alive would get tied to kuzan justice in the future.

Woulda been better if Kuzan killed his friend. And then that later on leads to his change of heart and his outlook on justice.
Instead, he merely thinks he killed his friend. Once again cheapening Kuzan's eventual departure from the marines.




Op already has a problem with fake deaths and constant revivals. But the flashbacks deaths were a bit more safe. Now even they aren't.

 

[Logiko]

1. No. it's a good thing.

2. Yes this reunion is necessary

3. A fake death - contrary to what some missinformed people might tell you - do NOT negate the emotional impact of the events in the story on reread.

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it's bad writing but it's not surprising.

And no. It's not bad writing.

Learn storytelling guyz.

 

[ShinichiMugi]

About Ohara: isnt it unrealistic that every Ohara person was in that ship that Akainu destroyed? I always had the opinion that some people somehow survived,because how could everyone stay in just one ship? By the way about Saul,it was a beautiful reunion,and lets see if he will reveal something big for the story or not.

Apart from the things he will bring to the story now,there is of course the big question:
WHY DIDNT SAUL TRY TO REUNITE WITH ROBIN DURING HER CHILDHOOD?
People will say: "He was hunted by the Marines". But,come on! When did this ever stopped a "good" character in One Piece,from doing something?
"But he is a giant",yeah,in a world full of giants! So he would not be immediately noticed. Moving secretively would have made him not easy to capture. And honestly,if you care so much about Robin,you just take the risk! Being together they would have had more chances to survive. What better hiding place for him and Robin,than Elbaph,a country outside the World Government? So really,making him alive and not in a coma or loss of memory like Sabo,creates a giant (like Elbaph giants lol) incoherent thing in the story.