General & Others Shouldn't Hiyori just be the Actual Shogun then?

[ImmaIvanoM]

Your just making shit complicated for no reason. Hiyori is either going to become Shogun or Steward or Regent until momo could become of age or something. Or they just don't have one and they go with another way of Government.
Borrowing from Naruto, Hokage; while not Shogun, Tsunade was a woman and become one. Your needlessly making shit up. /shrug

Naruto isnt one piece. There isn't blatant sexism in leaf village.

If Oda wants to give a woman a role that isn't typically meant for women, he has to actually draw attention to it.

Both Hiyori and momo literally says women should stay out of these conflicts.

Oda introduced gender roles himself. And specifically with the actual two characters whose gender roles are important to this conversation.

If Hiyori is to be Shogun or regent, it's not a leaf village thing. It's specifically stated to be a complete shift in culture that ha s to be addressed.

Orochimaru and Jiraiya were ahead of Tsunade in being Hokage because they were stronger than her. Not because she was a woman. If they mentioned that that was reason, it would've been directly addressed by the story in order to make her Hokage.

It's in the story already that Hiyori can't just take up these roles. That's just a fact in the culture.

So again, if this is going to change, it's not as simple as Naruto. Not at all

 

[Ravagerblade]

Naruto isnt one piece. There isn't blatant sexism in leaf village.

If Oda wants to give a woman a role that isn't typically meant for women, he has to actually draw attention to it.

Both Hiyori and momo literally says women should stay out of these conflicts.

Oda introduced gender roles himself. And specifically with the actual two characters whose gender roles are important to this conversation.

If Hiyori is to be Shogun or regent, it's not a leaf village thing. It's specifically stated to be a complete shift in culture that ha s to be addressed.

Orochimaru and Jiraiya were ahead of Tsunade in being Hokage because they were stronger than her. Not because she was a woman. If they mentioned that that was reason, it would've been directly addressed by the story in order to make her Hokage.

It's in the story already that Hiyori can't just take up these roles. That's just a fact in the culture.

So again, if this is going to change, it's not as simple as Naruto. Not at all

Where has this supposed Sexism been shown in Wano exactly? Can't remember at all but Kin'emon's 20 year knowledge gap.
Don't Occam's Broom this. Just because you say it does, Doesn't mean it will, Besides if Hiyori were to being Shogun it would end the "supposed" gender shit you think is happening.

 

[Kurodiamondo]

"Momo cant be SH crew because he is still a kid"

"Momo cant be a shogun because he is still a kid"

Poor momo

Spoiler

If I have to pick, then momo should become shogun because
1. He already got character development and udon prisoner+minks tribe's trust

2. Luffy did not underestimate momo as wano figurehead and already give him a lecture to become a men

3. Scabbard wont be taking a risk to let momo as the shogunate goes to the NW sea anymore

4. SHs will face another yonko. Some of the crew may not agree to let momo abroad for the sake of his safety

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Where has this supposed Sexism been shown in Wano exactly? Can't remember at all but Kin'emon's 20 year knowledge gap.
Don't Occam's Broom this. Just because you say it does, Doesn't mean it will, Besides if Hiyori were to being Shogun it would end the "supposed" gender shit you think is happening.

1. Both Momo and Hiyori say that women should stay out the business of saving the country.

2. Hiyori says the reason she wasn't sent to the future is so that if the plan with Momo failed, Hiyori would have grown up and probably given birth to a new successor to continue the bloodline. Notice that the plan is that Hiyori gives birth to a new male heir, not that she her self becomes Shogun. Zoro even comments how cruel this is.

3. Ushimaru is introduced trying to win over Kiku and Mouse man literally says "You're a son of a samurai, you can take whichever woman you want"

4. Kin'emon is surprised Tsuru never remarried and says "Why didn't she remarry to have a man protect her for all these years"

5. Kin'emon's introduction and comments about Nami.

6. Koshiro, who is a decendant of Wano people and follows their culture, and his comments about Kuina.

Do you notice now?

 

[Midnight Delight]

Kishi is more of a feminist than Oda lmao

 

[vikas]

You don't think Kuina and Zoro's story has anything to do with this?

And you don't think the general misogyny in Wano will ever matter to the plot?

I used to think that....before wano even begin... had speculations about it in OJ too....but that is not addressed even once.

 

[Ravagerblade]

1. Both Momo and Hiyori say that women should stay out the business of saving the country.

2. Hiyori says the reason she wasn't sent to the future is so that if the plan with Momo failed, Hiyori would have grown up and probably given birth to a new successor to continue the bloodline. Notice that the plan is that Hiyori gives birth to a new male heir, not that she her self becomes Shogun. Zoro even comments how cruel this is.

3. Ushimaru is introduced trying to win over Kiku and Mouse man literally says "You're a son of a samurai, you can take whichever woman you want"

4. Kin'emon is surprised Tsuru never remarried and says "Why didn't she remarry to have a man protect her for all these years"

5. Kin'emon's introduction and comments about Nami.

6. Koshiro, who is a decendant of Wano people and follows their culture, and his comments about Kuina.

Do you notice now?

All explainable away.
Did you ignore what I said? At the end of this arc shit like that is proof not even going to matter. Everything your defending is easily, nothing.