Powers & Abilities So, COA is Basically a Poor Man's COC at This Point

[Cinera]

Haoshoku coating can do everything you can do with COA, just better:

• Flow
• Armour
• Barrier
• Enhance attacks
• Resist/negate devil fruits

And COC is much more potent than COA at all the above functions.

Did Oda make COA irrelevant at the Top Tier level?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

CoA matters if it’s used with something that also boosts AP. For example Ice Glove from Kuzan and Gura from Blackbeard

 

[Cinera]

CoA matters if it’s used with something that also boosts AP. For example Ice Glove from Kuzan and Gura from Blackbeard

But in both cases, using COC instead would be better.

A fighter with weaker COC cannot compensate via superior COA.

COC just subsumes COA.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

yes
but it seems it can be combined with coc to form even stronger attacks

 

[Fujishiro]

Haoshoku coating can do everything you can do with COA, just better:

• Flow
• Armour
• Barrier
• Enhance attacks
• Resist/negate devil fruits

And COC is much more potent than COA at all the above functions.

Did Oda make COA irrelevant at the Top Tier level?

Not irrelevant no, its still strong especially if combined with broken fruits like with the Admirals.

 

[GeneralP123]

It isn't really irrelevant because you can combine max level CoA and max level CoC.

 

[Herrera95]

Haoshoku coating can do everything you can do with COA, just better:

• Flow
• Armour
• Barrier
• Enhance attacks
• Resist/negate devil fruits

And COC is much more potent than COA at all the above functions.

Did Oda make COA irrelevant at the Top Tier level?

Good point. Yes. Oda basically changed CoA with CoC. Coc used to be irrelevant at top tier level now it is CoA.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

I think COA will still be better for defense when all is said and done.

 

[Fujishiro]

I think COA will still be better for defense when all is said and done.

ACoC provides a shield as well.

 

[zorovsanji]

I think it's a multiplier

 

[JoNdule]

But in both cases, using COA instead would be better.

A fighter with weaker COC cannot compensate via superior COA.

COC just subsumes COA.

Zoro's CoC is weak (can't KO all fodders) but has great CoA yet can beat King easily
Old retired Garp (whose CoC isn't powerful anymore, can't KO all fodders) but has great CoA still to match Admirals in a fight

So your argument is wrong

 

[Tyrant MUUGEN]

Katakuri was emulating AdvCoA/borderline CoC with basic CoA hardening and DF abilities.

It's all how you use them.

AdvCoC was necessary for Kaido specifically

 

[God of Finance]

• Flow
• Armour
• Barrier
• Enhance attacks
• Resist/negate devil fruits

LMAO this is not what COC does.

 

[JoNdule]

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Haoshoku coating can do everything you can do with COA, just better:

• Flow
• Armour
• Barrier
• Enhance attacks
• Resist/negate devil fruits

And COC is much more potent than COA at all the above functions.

Did Oda make COA irrelevant at the Top Tier level?

BTW you don't need CoC to negate hax abilities.
CoC hasn't negated df powers (maybe only Roger and Shanks can do that with true adCoC

Law doesn't have CoC yet negated sick-hax

CoC doesn't do flow...flow concept from ryuo is used with CoC. So you need to know how to flow haki (ryuo) to coat your attacks with CoC

CoC : can boost attacks and be used as defensive force. Its pressure can destroy things (ice, rockets, rocks,...)
That's it so far

 

[Albino 👑]

No conquerors coating is just that it coats your armament and attacks in general
You don’t suddenly gain advanced levels of armament by knowing it

 

[IsaziSempi]

Don't think it was stated that CoC could negate df's or resist them. That's just haki. Also adcoc doesn't flow it just extends beyond the range of the weapon that created it. Ryou as luffy used it is haki doing internal damage. It's kinda like when you punch a line of bricks and only the 5th one breaks.

 

[Cinera]

LMAO this is not what COC does.

COC can and has been used for all of them.

 

[Albino 👑]

COC can and has been used for all of them.

No it can’t
It just boost what’s already there. Armament haki attacks can get stronger even infused with conquerors

 

[grey matter]

Yes.
It is massive creative failure from Loda to make advanced conqueror's haki functionally same as advanced armament haki, but just better,

What was he even thinking lmao? Tons of theories regarding what would be advanced version of conqueror's haki, and he just went with what he did..........I CANT.

 

[RoronoaZorro]

I think CoC problem is that, while it can combine/overlap with CoA, it can replace CoA to some extent. Like OP said.
Thus, making things redundant.