Powers & Abilities So, COA is Basically a Poor Man's COC at This Point
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Honestly I'm torn on the CoC issue
If it was anything more than it already is then it would feel kinda stupid
A key part of the power system that you can't unlock through training or skill. You just have to be born lucky
The problem is what we got is just plain old boring in comparison
I think the core issue is that CoC is something you HAVE to be born with
If it was something anyone could unlock with enough dedication then I think making it absolutely insane would be fine
If it was anything more than it already is then it would feel kinda stupid
A key part of the power system that you can't unlock through training or skill. You just have to be born lucky
The problem is what we got is just plain old boring in comparison
I think the core issue is that CoC is something you HAVE to be born with
If it was something anyone could unlock with enough dedication then I think making it absolutely insane would be fine
I really doubt it can. That's imo a special quirk of CoA and CoA only. By itself CoC likely can't do shit other than surpressing/overpowering other peoples' wills. Which imo is great. Makes the other haki colors much more important and not per se inferior.
With that it might be able to turn off logia intangibility at will, which would lead to a similar outcome, but it would still not enable someone to touch a logia body as it is.
With that it might be able to turn off logia intangibility at will, which would lead to a similar outcome, but it would still not enable someone to touch a logia body as it is.
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https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/advanced-coc-discussion.11907/
You zkK clowns should ask this to me, while you trolls were busy with ZKK and saying Ad.CoC doesn't exist, I predicted Ad.CoC exists.
Pure? How dumb you can get?
Only ZKK clowns believe that Kaido specifically hyped Oden's Aura
then said CoC.
Pure Zolo's CoA can't even paper cut DFless Lucci's leg
-ZKK got exposed
-WGS got exposed, he needs skill
-Zolo's weak CoA got exposed, he needs special swords and sword skill
Cry more.
You zkK clowns should ask this to me, while you trolls were busy with ZKK and saying Ad.CoC doesn't exist, I predicted Ad.CoC exists.
Who tf gave this clown access to internet.
Pure Zoro CoA , Cut kaido and bro says he got weak CoA.
Pure Zoro CoA , Cut kaido and bro says he got weak CoA.
Only ZKK clowns believe that Kaido specifically hyped Oden's Aura
then said CoC.Pure Zolo's CoA can't even paper cut DFless Lucci's leg
-ZKK got exposed
-WGS got exposed, he needs skill
-Zolo's weak CoA got exposed, he needs special swords and sword skill
Cry more.
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Base Yamato can physically match G2/3
Yet see the difference when it comes to their impact on Kaidou.
Luffy has better CoA than Yamato, hence he is able to flow CoC better - even though he's physically inferior (atleast in base).
CoA is still important, because the skill of "flowing" is what determines how Powerful your CoC attacks are.
Yet see the difference when it comes to their impact on Kaidou.
Luffy has better CoA than Yamato, hence he is able to flow CoC better - even though he's physically inferior (atleast in base).
CoA is still important, because the skill of "flowing" is what determines how Powerful your CoC attacks are.
Luffy enhances the haki blast itself, whereas Yamato enhances the physical attack.
It's really like Luffy became a melee caster type of fighter with that. Atleast that's how I see it.
His whole fighting style is based upon haki blasts right now.
Not only do those haki blasts pack a much bigger punch relatively to Luffy's base strength, they also change the attack type into "internal damaging", which overall makes them >>> to physical blunt force moves.
It's a huge difference. Without Luffy's newfound CoA PU, he wouldn't be half as good as he is now and perhaps not even able to damage Kaido if not for his strongest Boundman attacks and G5's rubberization effect (perhaps). Cause even a hybrid Yamato TB only scratched Kaido's face.
"Things" in the Viz T/L here mean fists and weapons & not CoA.
I see it as Luffy "flowing" a CoC - the skill of "flow" is the key here because thats what determines how well you "coat" yourself.
Yeah, the skill of flowing Haki is the same for CoA & CoC and that determines how powerful you are.
Luffy & Zoro looked devastating with CoC because their "flowing" skill was already great, which is what Rooftop had established.
I see it as Luffy "flowing" a CoC - the skill of "flow" is the key here because thats what determines how well you "coat" yourself.
Yeah, the skill of flowing Haki is the same for CoA & CoC and that determines how powerful you are.
Luffy & Zoro looked devastating with CoC because their "flowing" skill was already great, which is what Rooftop had established.
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https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/advanced-coc-discussion.11907/
You zkK clowns should ask this to me, while you trolls were busy with ZKK and saying Ad.CoC doesn't exist, I predicted Ad.CoC exists.
Pure? How dumb you can get?
Only ZKK clowns believe that Kaido specifically hyped Oden's Aura then said CoC.
Pure Zolo's CoA can't even paper cut DFless Lucci's leg
-ZKK got exposed
-WGS got exposed, he needs skill
-Zolo's weak CoA got exposed, he needs special swords and sword skill
Cry more.
You zkK clowns should ask this to me, while you trolls were busy with ZKK and saying Ad.CoC doesn't exist, I predicted Ad.CoC exists.
Pure? How dumb you can get?
Only ZKK clowns believe that Kaido specifically hyped Oden's Aura
then said CoC.Pure Zolo's CoA can't even paper cut DFless Lucci's leg
-ZKK got exposed
-WGS got exposed, he needs skill
-Zolo's weak CoA got exposed, he needs special swords and sword skill
Cry more.
- Refused to answer with facts
- Started insulting cuz clown got nothing else.
- Still in the delusion of Special swords
- Mihawk > Shanks is Canon , clown is still In skill Era which already got debunked.
Give it up , arguments ain't for clowns like you.
Troll you insult first, you are desperate, do you have brain damage? 
I literally answered your clown argument, Zolo didn't cut Kaido with pure CoA thats only something ZKKclowns lie about. I debunked it:
I already said Kaido +BM hyped Oden aura and said CoC later + special sword techniques, where was it said Zolo only used CoA clown, keep crying.
Mihawk will be weaker than both Shanks and Shiryu.
I literally answered your clown argument, Zolo didn't cut Kaido with pure CoA thats only something ZKKclowns lie about. I debunked it:
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Only ZKK clowns believe that Kaido specifically hyped Oden's Aura then said CoC.
Pure Zolo's CoA can't even paper cut DFless Lucci's leg
Only ZKK clowns believe that Kaido specifically hyped Oden's Aura
then said CoC.Pure Zolo's CoA can't even paper cut DFless Lucci's leg
Mihawk will be weaker than both Shanks and Shiryu.
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Oda has already said there's no oden anymore.
If you can't even take what author says and believe in your delusion that's called Headcanon.
Zoro didn't even Use Adcoc 🤦.
His Tatsuki was already damaging Kaido.
With Ashura he went all out and cut kaido , it's as simple as that.
Mihawk will be weaker than shanks and Shiryu?
Remind if either of them has WSS title 🤦.
Mihawk SBS literally says He is waiting for someone , stronger than "Shanks" not someone who's More skillful than Shanks.
Shiryu has Zero Hype , Zero feats under his belt , yet a clown like you puts him above mihawk is enough delusion.
I insulted your takes because they were absurd , I'm not even brining up your Past L's... You just keeping crying over ZKK , which was a theory and didn't come into Fruition .. 🤷.
You are insulting with the sole purpose of Escaping the argument that's it. Understand how you speak and Argue.
You answered nothing and proved nothing. Stop believing in your delulu lmao.
Unless you give me panel or SBS telling me Shanks and Shiryu > Mihawk. Don't bother quoting me and if Zoro Used AdCoC there , Show me the Black Lightening Trails.
If you cannot , take your L and sit back.
Mihawk already negged your Takes by Getting 3.6 B bounty on due to his Strength. Not even BB has this much of bounty for strength.
Stop clowning yourself 🤷.
If you can't even take what author says and believe in your delusion that's called Headcanon.
Zoro didn't even Use Adcoc 🤦.
His Tatsuki was already damaging Kaido.
With Ashura he went all out and cut kaido , it's as simple as that.
Mihawk will be weaker than shanks and Shiryu?
Remind if either of them has WSS title 🤦.
Mihawk SBS literally says He is waiting for someone , stronger than "Shanks" not someone who's More skillful than Shanks.
Shiryu has Zero Hype , Zero feats under his belt , yet a clown like you puts him above mihawk is enough delusion.
I insulted your takes because they were absurd , I'm not even brining up your Past L's... You just keeping crying over ZKK , which was a theory and didn't come into Fruition .. 🤷.
You are insulting with the sole purpose of Escaping the argument that's it. Understand how you speak and Argue.
You answered nothing and proved nothing. Stop believing in your delulu lmao.
Unless you give me panel or SBS telling me Shanks and Shiryu > Mihawk. Don't bother quoting me and if Zoro Used AdCoC there , Show me the Black Lightening Trails.
If you cannot , take your L and sit back.
Mihawk already negged your Takes by Getting 3.6 B bounty on due to his Strength. Not even BB has this much of bounty for strength.
Stop clowning yourself 🤷.
Zolo uses: Oden aura (said multiple times by Kaido and BM) + special swords + special sword techniques + CoC to cut Kaido
ZKKclowns: Zolo used only CoA
Reality: When Zolo just used CoA + even special swords and no special sword techniques, he can't even paper cut DFless Lucci's leg.
As I said there are levels to both CoA and CoC, and Zolo's CoA is too weak he needs to combine CoC.
Do the math, if someone has like 100 level CoA, 20 level CoC would be enough. If a weakling like Zolo has 50 level CoA then he needs 30 level CoC to do something.
Also, Law's teleportation was stopped because of BM's and Kaido's superior CoA. If you think it was CoC, then Law has CoC as well.
ZKKclowns: Zolo used only CoA
Reality: When Zolo just used CoA + even special swords and no special sword techniques, he can't even paper cut DFless Lucci's leg.
As I said there are levels to both CoA and CoC, and Zolo's CoA is too weak he needs to combine CoC.
Do the math, if someone has like 100 level CoA, 20 level CoC would be enough. If a weakling like Zolo has 50 level CoA then he needs 30 level CoC to do something.
Also, Law's teleportation was stopped because of BM's and Kaido's superior CoA. If you think it was CoC, then Law has CoC as well.
Armament haki would still need to be the base that the conquerors is boosting
Eh I don’t think flow is all that important luffy was just applying it to his penetration armament to make it stronger
With him doing the same with barrier armament at the end
We also see him landing conquerors attacks without either
Eh I don’t think flow is all that important luffy was just applying it to his penetration armament to make it stronger
With him doing the same with barrier armament at the end
We also see him landing conquerors attacks without either
