Powers & Abilities So how come Zoro is not a hakiman?
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i would, in fact, go as far as to say one can be a swordsman even if they don't have a sword, provided they also don't have haki.
If one can be a non swordsman while using only a sword everytime he appears then one can be a swordsman while using 0 swords.
This perfectly goes with the logic.
Bro challenged 2 yonko at once and still states that. Yes, my goodman. They are not ready for what's coming 
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When you realize zoro beat the same number of enemies (2) with kicks as sanji did since post TS. :saden:
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I think these unofficial but totally canon panels fit here very well.
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When you realize zoro beat the same number of enemies (2) with kicks as sanji did since post TS. :saden:
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I think these unofficial but totally canon panels fit here very well.
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this guy gets it
zoro is not, and will never be the world's greatest swordsman.
because he's not a swordsman. he's a hakiman.
only ppl without haki can be swordsmen
zoro is not, and will never be the world's greatest swordsman.
because he's not a swordsman. he's a hakiman.
only ppl without haki can be swordsmen
It's like Ariana Grande, she is a good actress and a good singer. But her singing is her stronger trait and what made her more well-known
Because he's weakest Conqueror user in canon sadly..
Even kaido wasn't sure if Zoro was using conqueror for how weak it is..
Even kaido wasn't sure if Zoro was using conqueror for how weak it is..
King of Hell Zoro's CoC >>>> Luffy's CoC By far.
Because that contradicts your previous paragraph.
You claimed this: "People with Haki can be a Swordsman, but only if the Haki contribute less than their swordsmanship, in regards to their power."
Going by your example, you'd be saying this: "People who Sing can be an Actor, but only if their Singing contribute less than their Acting, in regards to their talent".
Which is not true, because Ariana is both a singer and an actress. Meaning even if someone Shanks was better at haki skills than at sword skills, he'd still be a swordsman.
You claimed this: "People with Haki can be a Swordsman, but only if the Haki contribute less than their swordsmanship, in regards to their power."
Going by your example, you'd be saying this: "People who Sing can be an Actor, but only if their Singing contribute less than their Acting, in regards to their talent".
Which is not true, because Ariana is both a singer and an actress. Meaning even if someone Shanks was better at haki skills than at sword skills, he'd still be a swordsman.
Because he's weakest Conqueror user in canon sadly..
Even kaido wasn't sure if Zoro was using conqueror for how weak it is..
Even kaido wasn't sure if Zoro was using conqueror for how weak it is..
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You should never take that clown seriously in the first place
False equivalence, and you didn't tie it to the second sentence for context.
X can have singing skills and acting skills. But because X's singing skills is better than the acting skill, then X would be Singer first, Actor second.
In regard to the discussion of this topic as a whole,
- A can have Haki skills and Swordsmanship skills, but because A's Haki skills is better/stronger/more prevalent/whatever, then A is "Hakiman" first and "Swordsman" second.
- B can have Haki skills and Swordsmanship skills, but because A's sword skills is better/stronger/more prevalent/whatever, then A is "Swordsman" first and "Hakiman" second.
So,
- Ariana is a singer, who can act.
- Jackie Chan is an actor, who can sing.
And thus :
- Zoro is a Swordsman, who can use Haki <--- correct
- Zoro is a Hakiman, who can use sword <--- incorrect
X can have singing skills and acting skills. But because X's singing skills is better than the acting skill, then X would be Singer first, Actor second.
In regard to the discussion of this topic as a whole,
- A can have Haki skills and Swordsmanship skills, but because A's Haki skills is better/stronger/more prevalent/whatever, then A is "Hakiman" first and "Swordsman" second.
- B can have Haki skills and Swordsmanship skills, but because A's sword skills is better/stronger/more prevalent/whatever, then A is "Swordsman" first and "Hakiman" second.
So,
- Ariana is a singer, who can act.
- Jackie Chan is an actor, who can sing.
And thus :
- Zoro is a Swordsman, who can use Haki <--- correct
- Zoro is a Hakiman, who can use sword <--- incorrect
