Questions & Mysteries So why didn’t the WG catch Luffy sooner?
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Yes, and the point here is what I explained.
All of this became worthless because Luffy could achieve "ridiculous" stuff (not actually ridiculous since like I said they make sense, a bit exaggerated some of them, but they are logical stuff -> though now cannonicaly they are ridiculous because it wasn't supposed to work like that with a normal rubber DF).
No mythical zoan model Nika = no party. Luffy didnt squeeze a trash fruit to its fullest with his imagination (which he obviously has). He thought he had a Fiat with which he won against, idk, a BMW, because he could use its potential at its fullest but the reality is that he had a Formula 1 in disguise, with limited gears, but still a Formula 1. A Fiar wouldnt have made the job.
All of this became worthless because Luffy could achieve "ridiculous" stuff (not actually ridiculous since like I said they make sense, a bit exaggerated some of them, but they are logical stuff -> though now cannonicaly they are ridiculous because it wasn't supposed to work like that with a normal rubber DF).
No mythical zoan model Nika = no party. Luffy didnt squeeze a trash fruit to its fullest with his imagination (which he obviously has). He thought he had a Fiat with which he won against, idk, a BMW, because he could use its potential at its fullest but the reality is that he had a Formula 1 in disguise, with limited gears, but still a Formula 1. A Fiar wouldnt have made the job.
The "ridiculous" stuff he can achieve is now because the fruit is awakened. Prior to this, the only thing he could is push the rubber to its limits, which was bound by his own creativeness. Have you seen Luffy doing any Looney Tune-esque things prior to this chapter?
You're acting like Luffy has been awakened all this time, and everything he's done until this point is because of it.
You're acting like Luffy has been awakened all this time, and everything he's done until this point is because of it.
Because it is a retcon. You can't make sense of a bad retcon.
That is stupid logic though. It is NOT about them not actually being able to capture him, instead it is about them not even wanting to capture him. They didn't mention his fruit nor wanted to capture him for that reason. Marineford they told every secret there is to know about Luffy and yet didn't say anything about his fruit. It is a retcon.
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WG couldnt capture nico robin for over 20 years and you expect luffy to get caught within 2-3 yrs
WG couldnt capture nico robin for over 20 years and you expect luffy to get caught within 2-3 yrs
That's not good enough as an explanation. There's no reason to axe him now in Wano, as opposed to any other island he created havoc in. If anything, he's way less reachable in Wano than anywhere else. They had him in Marineford, but no attempts were made to get the rubber man himself, he only ever was chased because he tried to free Ace and for that reason only.
Like... Where is this sudden panic coming from?
That is my question!
Yes. I really can't think of anything else changing, other than them getting some new info about this suddenly.
great point, always wondered that myself as a kid
Its not they cant captured him, but they cant justify why.
Robin make sense , but this is different.
Unless the wg wants everything regarding the sun god out to the public, they can only do limited shit like pulling the cp0 stunt.
Also this, they likely only know after shanks told them
people are forgeting this, it is heavily inplied that there are multiple WGs in the past, and they chose to keep this in dark even for their successor.
That is why how shanks and imu revolve around this for me is the key to the plot
Robin make sense , but this is different.
Unless the wg wants everything regarding the sun god out to the public, they can only do limited shit like pulling the cp0 stunt.
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Also this, they likely only know after shanks told them
people are forgeting this, it is heavily inplied that there are multiple WGs in the past, and they chose to keep this in dark even for their successor.
That is why how shanks and imu revolve around this for me is the key to the plot
Wouldn’t be surprised if Shanks snitched on Luffy in his last appearance in front of the gorosei. As far as I understand mythical zoan nika DF doesn’t necessarily have to give its user a rubber body, but since Luffy imagined it to be as such as a kid it became one tho what I’m saying doesn’t have to be entirely true. Back to the point Luffy was the pirate Shanks wanted to talk about in that meeting and that’s how the five elders knew about Luffy’s DF.
No, he already made ridiculous stuff before (like Doflaming/Kaido/Katakuri said), but we didnt know that, we assumed it was something "normal", something within an acceptable range like I explained. But this wont be possible with a normal Gomu Gomu fruit.
Awakening pushed this beyond, even more ridiculous, even more "freedom".
You couldnt prove me wrong. Luffy lost his essence with this.
Awakening pushed this beyond, even more ridiculous, even more "freedom".
You couldnt prove me wrong. Luffy lost his essence with this.
i mean from their reactions , gomu gomu fruit is a pretty big deal to just lay aside even if u think its just a myth , even who's who knows that the user of that fruit is luffy so why not the gorosei . it will be either that the gorosei takes things too casually and are too dumb to take actions or its a simple plot hole .
ok first of all , they know that luffy was still alive after he came to ring the bell . there was the entirety of pre timeskip left for that , even who's who knew that luffy has the gomu gomu fruit , why shouldnt the gorosei know abt it . considering an admiral is directly sent when a world noble gets hurt , i think having the fruit of a literal god takes more priority or u can even leave the admirals tbh , why not the cp0 . 1 cp0 agent can annhilate the entirety of strawhats pre timeskip , by seeing how they eradicated the entirety of ohara for them knowing about the void century , it doesnt makes any sense for the gorosei to know luffy having the fruit of the hero of the void century and just ignoring him . now i can even tell u abt the war , luffy announced his fruit name in front of sengoku who is the fleet admiral and as we know the fleet admiral knows much more than the other marines do , sengoku has been hinted at knowing the will of D and akainu has been shown knowing about the existence of imu .
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ok first of all , they know that luffy was still alive after he came to ring the bell . there was the entirety of pre timeskip left for that , even who's who knew that luffy has the gomu gomu fruit , why shouldnt the gorosei know abt it . considering an admiral is directly sent when a world noble gets hurt , i think having the fruit of a literal god takes more priority or u can even leave the admirals tbh , why not the cp0 . 1 cp0 agent can annhilate the entirety of strawhats pre timeskip , by seeing how they eradicated the entirety of ohara for them knowing about the void century , it doesnt makes any sense for the gorosei to know luffy having the fruit of the hero of the void century and just ignoring him . now i can even tell u abt the war , luffy announced his fruit name in front of sengoku who is the fleet admiral and as we know the fleet admiral knows much more than the other marines do , sengoku has been hinted at knowing the will of D and akainu has been shown knowing about the existence of imu .
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Everything you said here is true and I would have been convinced if there was not Enies Lobby.
At Enies Lobby, they didn't try enough.
Why am I saying that ?
Because remember that was a freaking buster call the WG send against Luffy and his crew.
But for some reason, only Lieutenants and Captains went on the bridge to fight the Strawhats Pirates.
The 5 Vice Admirals stood idle like morons.
Knowing some Vice Admirals can do Geppou, there is no explanations why 1 of those Vice Admirals didn't try Geppou to capture a Luffy half dead if that fruit was so important and that the WG knew about this.
At Enies Lobby, they didn't try enough.
Why am I saying that ?
Because remember that was a freaking buster call the WG send against Luffy and his crew.
But for some reason, only Lieutenants and Captains went on the bridge to fight the Strawhats Pirates.
The 5 Vice Admirals stood idle like morons.
Knowing some Vice Admirals can do Geppou, there is no explanations why 1 of those Vice Admirals didn't try Geppou to capture a Luffy half dead if that fruit was so important and that the WG knew about this.
