Questions & Mysteries So why didn’t the WG catch Luffy sooner?

#47
Because Oda didn't come up with this shit until early raid at best.
I dont know man, i have the feeling that Oda had this kind of ability planned for luffy for a long time or atleast played with the idea of giving him a different type of DF. This is from what like 20 years ago? Sbs Volume 20 one of the last question sounds very sus to me:

D: WHAT HAPPENS IF A PERSON EATS A HITO HITO NO MI?
O:
I suppose I should say they "BECOME HUMAN". Uh, I guess you could say that means like becoming an adult, or finding your true spirit or something. So basically, people will live more human-like. Well. I guess you could say that. Or not. Basically, not. Goodbye. (runs away).

:kayneshrug:
 
#50
It wouldn‘t surprise me at all if Oda’s been planning this from the beginning.

But that’s why people need to drop the idea that something been planned in advance makes it great but something thought on the spot makes it bad.

This reveal may well have landed a lot better in the initial plan where Oda was in his first series, was hoping he could get a five year run and we’d probably find out round about chapter 200 of 250.

It becomes a lot more serious a change when the series has been running 25 odd years and we find this out in chapter 1044 of about 1200.

Again, I just keep thinking that everything that was said this chapter would have perfectly fine with it still being the Gomu Gomu. It’s that change that really bothers me more than anything else.

(The eyes also will get a fair bit of getting used to but I can live with that).
 
#51
Because Devil fruits are hard to come by and Who’s Who lost the world government millions of berries and gave a potentially powerful weapon to pirates due to his negligence.
You dont put your agent with most potential in prison because he lost your money. Its the WG, they can accumulate money. And you said it, "potentially powerful". So they suspected its the fruit, and they thought they finally have it, just for it to be lost. They must have been mad as hell, just to later forget about it
 
#53
Well, they tried, they just couldn’t.

The first the Gorosei are aware of him is after Alabasta. Luffy gies shooting up to Skypiea after that.

Then Aokiji goes hunting him down. He says that’s he’s always paid attention to Luffy (probably because he’s Garp’s grandson) and he’s frightened of his potential. He could have captured Luffy if he wanted, but didn’t.

Then they strike the deal with Robin that she comes in exchange for the Strawhats freedom. Would they have been better just capturing them both, yes. Here’s where it’s important that Luffy is not the only person who has eaten the Gomu Gomu since Joy Boy. If there has been eight hundred years worth of ‘failed’ GG eaters, then it makes sense he’s not a huge priority and they chose to focus on Robin instead.

If there hasn’t been, horrible mistake.

EL finishes, again, Garp and Kuzan don’t do their jobs. Luffy escapes to Thriller Bark, Kuma, again, does not do his job.

Saobody, Kizaru does do his job, but Ray and Kuma get in the way.

ID and Marineford, they try to kill Luffy, doesn’t work. Vanishes for two years. Resurfaces again, in PH Smoker tries to hunt Luffy down but works with him instead. Also couldn’t actually capture Luffy if he wanted to.

Appears on Dressrosa, if Fujitora does his job he’s captured. Instead he… does not.

Then Zou and WCI, out of WG aim, and Wano, where the legendary Mr Go finally has the chance to intervene.

So this is not one of the areas where I’m overly bothered with the reveal. Luffy’s escaped mostly because of Admirals not being mindless slaves to the World Gov (do they even know about Nika) and powerful people protecting him when he was weaker. The only wrinkle is W7 where they chose to focus on Robin instead of him, that can only be explained by them

-not knowing Luffy had the fruit (possible, but makes them incompetent)
-knowing, but not caring because many others have eaten it over the years.

Oda really needs to go for the second option.
This is great logic. The only other problem is the gorosei has known Luffy lineage. Son of Dragon, Grandson of Garp, sworn brother of Ace. You should expect him to pull of the impossible.
 
#54
You dont put your agent with most potential in prison because he lost your money. Its the WG, they can accumulate money. And you said it, "potentially powerful". So they suspected its the fruit, and they thought they finally have it, just for it to be lost. They must have been mad as hell, just to later forget about it
I wouldn't exactly take Who's Who's comment at face value lol
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
#55
Two possibilities in my mind:

1. They simply didnt know Luffy is the Gomu Gomu No Mi User. Maybe they have heard his name, but simply connected with the strawhat and as a rookie, nothing really outstanding. It seems like the mystery around the Gomu Gomu was well saved, so people bringing up reports didnt thought it would kinda be important to tell the name of the DF to higher ups from a low tier pirate. Since he went up and grew strong, they got the news.

2. They know some people have their hand above Luffy. Like Dragon and Garp. If they would have send the admirals directly, Dragon and Garp could have been cautions about the situation and rush to help. Maybe this is what happened back then in Logue Town?
 
#56
You dont put your agent with most potential in prison because he lost your money. Its the WG, they can accumulate money. And you said it, "potentially powerful". So they suspected its the fruit, and they thought they finally have it, just for it to be lost. They must have been mad as hell, just to later forget about it
They were going to kill all of CP9 for Enies lobby.

And yeah they were likely watching shanks’ crew incredibly closely because they figured he had this fruit.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#57
No idea. They had no great concern over Luffy when he returned to Marineford with Rayleigh and Jinbe. They made no special attempt at capturing him in Dressrosa. They never sent anyone specifically after him apart from Garp—let’s be real here and call this a half measure. They never sent a message to Magellan and told a him to keep Luffy alive for fruit extraction—what they want is the fruit above all else.

The Gorosei never actively tried to grab the fruit in the series, so this statement from them is very very dumb.
 

Pantheos

Heavy Metal
#60
I dont know man, i have the feeling that Oda had this kind of ability planned for luffy for a long time or atleast played with the idea of giving him a different type of DF. This is from what like 20 years ago? Sbs Volume 20 one of the last question sounds very sus to me:

D: WHAT HAPPENS IF A PERSON EATS A HITO HITO NO MI?
O:
I suppose I should say they "BECOME HUMAN". Uh, I guess you could say that means like becoming an adult, or finding your true spirit or something. So basically, people will live more human-like. Well. I guess you could say that. Or not. Basically, not. Goodbye. (runs away).

:kayneshrug:
->"finding your true spirit or something", sounds to me like he already knew. :D
 
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