Powers & Abilities So Yamato gets ACoC but Kid doesn't

The answer is quite simple..ODA is going for diversity in the fights,he can't have a war with the same power spammed and be the focus across multiple fights so he has some characters use and specialize in Coc coating while others use and specialize in Df powers.



Admirals are top tiers and most will not get Coc coating even while having base Coc,same for kid.

Zoro and Luffy are the ones shown training their haki for the war so they are the only ones who devleopped Coc coating this raid.

Law and Kid have always been presented as Df reliant so it is only normal that they dig deeper in their specialty.

Yamato is a new character who relies on both haki and devil fruits,but does not rely on any in particular.

This is not Hxh where the only power to get to the top is Nen mastery.
 
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Oda has more in mind for yamato than Kidd that simple. Kidd has CoC but law doesn't same deal. Kid will probably get adcoc later on like Eos later on but oda clearly wants to hype yamato as 1 of the strongest characters alive. She's a half step away from top tier status while Kidd is with the yc1's. Imo oda either wants her to be luffy's Oden or be 1 of his main allies eos that he can call on. Kidd was meant to be luffy's rival and up until the rooftop he held on but now it's just laughable in everyway to see Kidd as luffy's rival. Kidd has turned into another cheerleader for luffy only now it's the first tsundere kind.
 
No he didn't. Bad translation.

Luffy and Zoro literally did 0 training for CoC coating. Or are we going to ignore that?
Advance CoC is ryou +CoC
all luffy did was switch out his armament haki with conqueror haki , he did train to use ryou which is a big part of why Advance CoC is so effective. as for zoro it seems like his swords are coated with Conqueror but Idont know if he could use ryou as well.
 
Advance CoC is ryou +CoC
all luffy did was switch out his armament haki with conqueror haki , he did train to use ryou which is a big part of why Advance CoC is so effective. as for zoro it seems like his swords are coated with Conqueror but Idont know if he could use ryou as well.
He didn't really switch it out. Kaido confirmed Luffy is using both at the same time.

CoC essentially takes whatever form your CoA takes. (I've talked about characters mixing hardening + CoC before).
 

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Yamato is kaido's daughter and third stronger mugis after zoro and luffy while kid is kid:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:
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People need to stop making up their own criteria for what is and isnt needed.

Rooftop Luffy was 1 step away from Yonko level and he didnt have ACoC. Kid and Law would shit on Tobi Roppo. Kaido sent them after Yamato.
rooftop luffy was saved for zoro two time and he was defeated for one kaido attack
 
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Supernova for the most part are props Oda added impromptu to spice up the story. They are just there to supplement the story and not really a core part of it. Only one of them that has defied expectations is Law, which Oda himself has admitted to. Don’t think Oda ever really intended to make Kidd a legit rival to Luffy and he clearly isn’t willing to put in the effort either. It’s all just surface level fluff. Even the CoC ting honestly just feels like an addition he gave him to make him special coz he made Law a D. Then there’s the Linlin fight which again is fluff imo to push the surface level narrative of both being Luffy’s rivals. On paper he made both Kidd & Law beat Linlin coz Luffy was gonna beat Kaido but wasn’t really willing to put nearly as much effort in their fight hence the sheer fckery we got.
 
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Seriously, the guys are kind of dumb, Kid, Law, Killer, X-drake, Hawkins, Urouge, Capone, their haki knowledge is limited, they didn't have the pirate king's right arm and strongest swordsman training them for 2 consecutive years, when Luffy finished his training, he already knew of Ryou's existence, and Fs, he knew he could evolve his HAKI in intense battles, in both cases he always had a flashback of Rayleigh, when he was learning Ryou and when he was learning FS, the last thing that luffy was missing and that he didn't know was ACOC, that's different from KID and the rest (SNS) who spent 2 years in the new world without doing anything relevant, without any teacher, that's a fact , so realistic that KID confirms, "Can you hurt Kaido with physical blows?!"

Unlike Luffy, Kid and Law had to max both their DF, not their HAKI, as their HAKI information is very limited, yamato was beaten by kaidou since he was a child, he logically at some point in history he learned from Kaidou how to use advanced COC, and when he became strong enough to do so.

So what is most convincing to you:

1st - Luffy after taking lessons for 2 years on Haki and using his knowledge to advance his HAKI and get FS and Ryou.


2nd - Law and Kid and the rest of the (SNS) who didn't have a teacher learn FS and Ryou at the same time as Luffy?

the second option would show that training Luffy and Zoro with the first mate of the pirate king and Wss, would be worthless because the other members are acquiring the same types of haki without needing to be taught.

Unlike Luffy and Zoro, Kid and Law and the others are only increasing their scope of knowledge about types of haki now in Wano.

Making the others get FS and even Ryou at the same time as Luffy would make the training he did with Ryaleigh useless.
 
Also, good job at conveniently ignoring the fact that she took a hit to the head
You clown. She used an ability to block. Law did the same shit and walk away unscathed.



Let Yamato beat Sasaki first who Hakiless Franky bet, then come talk. You ZKKers have become straight up laughable clowns.



These ZKK morons were trying to convince us YC-level Zoro was going to beat the strongest Yonko, now they're going to convince Sasaki's and Ulti's rival Yamato is stronger than Luffy's rivals who took down a Yonko.
 


These ZKK morons were trying to convince us YC-level Zoro was going to beat the strongest Yonko, now they're going to convince Sasaki's and Ulti's rival Yamato is stronger than Luffy's rivals who took down a Yonko.
Yamato was standing her ground against Hybrid Kaido who was swinging around his Haoshoku infused club, could even guard herself from a Haoshoku Thunder Bagua to the head (albeit the damage caught up to her later), while Yamato herself was capable of even making Kaido's forehead bleed with her Bagua, which is a pretty good feet for blunt force (which is not the same as making Kaido cough blood, since here, Yamato's Bagua damaged the scales themselves with the blunt hit).

Thinking Sasaki stands even the slightest chance is absurd. As you said, even Franky beat him, which means that Kaido would dogwalk Sasaki with no Haki or DF transformation at all. "But Kaido sent the F6". Kaido sent Jack after post WCI Luffy and Law too, as he sent Jack to retrieve Doffy from 2 admirals.
 
He didn't really switch it out. Kaido confirmed Luffy is using both at the same time.

CoC essentially takes whatever form your CoA takes. (I've talked about characters mixing hardening + CoC before).
Kaido said that when he was using gear 5 go back and re read 1010 oda spells it out what advance coc is luffy in gear 5 is mixing his haki thats something different.
 

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You clown. She used an ability to block.
Which doesn't change the fact that she took the hit to the head. Sure, she used her shield, which I've never even denied—So I am not sure why you're so triggered. The argument started with you talking about her defense failing, remember?

Yamato "I didn't block it. Not even close".
You can't even follow your own shit that you've posted a couple of quotes earlier. Fix that head first before mocking people for being clowns.


Law did the same shit and walk away unscathed.

Yeah, failing to block a random swing and getting sent flying is the same as almost withstanding a signature move.


Let Yamato beat Sasaki first who Hakiless Franky bet, then come talk. You ZKKers have become straight up laughable clowns.



These ZKK morons were trying to convince us YC-level Zoro was going to beat the strongest Yonko, now they're going to convince Sasaki's and Ulti's rival Yamato is stronger than Luffy's rivals who took down a Yonko.
Kaido beat the shit out of the Scabbards in the base while Yamato lasted however long she did against Hybrid Kaido. She's still far from defeated. Are you seriously suggesting she's a rival to Sasaki of all people with a straight face? That ZKK goes to show just how clueless you are about what you're talking. I was never in the ZKK club—I've been denying it since day-1. Zoro is YC-level? You need some rest, Homie.
 
Oda is a confused out of his mind retard.
Nika vs Kaido is going on for what feels like a eternity without making much headway.
Couldnt that idiot give 2 more extra chapters to Kid and Law vs BM to develop the fight more with more haki stuff etc ????

Oda just cant stop jerking off to Nika.
Otama chapters are more important
 
Supernova for the most part are props Oda added impromptu to spice up the story. They are just there to supplement the story and not really a core part of it. Only one of them that has defied expectations is Law, which Oda himself has admitted to. Don’t think Oda ever really intended to make Kidd a legit rival to Luffy and he clearly isn’t willing to put in the effort either. It’s all just surface level fluff. Even the CoC ting honestly just feels like an addition he gave him to make him special coz he made Law a D. Then there’s the Linlin fight which again is fluff imo to push the surface level narrative of both being Luffy’s rivals. On paper he made both Kidd & Law beat Linlin coz Luffy was gonna beat Kaido but wasn’t really willing to put nearly as much effort in their fight hence the sheer fckery we got.
Goat puck strikes again :myman:

But I think they will play some roll in the future
 
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