Soba Mask with Enma VS Kaido

can soba mask slay the dragon?

  • of course

    Votes: 6 22.2%
  • sure

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • definitely

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • still thinking

    Votes: 2 7.4%
  • 1+1 = 3 and my answer is no to the poll. I also dye my hair gree, color of puke

    Votes: 4 14.8%
  • n.... how to you spell it ...oooo, nnnn! dam :(

    Votes: 13 48.1%

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stealthblack

#42
As if Kaido is a fodder who doesn't have high level of observations and armament haki and speed. :seriously:
never shown coo countering invisibility. and it would make it useless since everyone has coo these days. kaidou's top tier coo didn't see luffy attacking him. luffy didn't see the minks with his coo, and they were army.
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@stealthblack it's not just about Enma being magic sword or grade sword, you also have to factor in armament haki.

Also, physical training matters a lot to generate enough force and momentum that's why we have seen Zoro training a lot. Along with this, a swordman must become one with the sword just like boat. Sanji also lack this aspect.

And, considering Kaido is a Yonkou with top tier stats, I doubt oden would be able to give him a scar in just one attempt. He could have used some top tier technique to give that scar.

So, Sanji having Enma would mean nothing in front of of Kaido.
traning counts for nothing if zoro is the only guy we see training yet he is clealry not the top. and training counts for nothing if you don't train in extreme battles, not joke battles like monet or fishmen
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#43
never shown coo countering invisibility. and it woudl make it useless since everyone has coo these days. kaidou's top tier coo didn't see luffy attacking him.
Kaido was drunk af.. Lol

And, coo isn't about seeing someone but feeling presence of someone which will work against invisibility.

Ez-Luffy, Zoro and Sanji figured out presence of caribou in Fishman Island
 
#44
I dont believe that for a second. How can he be too tough for top tiers yet novice coa luffy will damage him and beat him. Makes no sense.
It isn't so common Haki tho, none of the YCs we have seen so far had it. Which shows why they don't stand a chance against Top tiers to begin with.
As for the Top tiers most probably will have it, bt i think only Rayleigh and possibly Garp are the ones that really showed us this Haki so far. Rayleigh broke the Neck chain in Saboady and Garp punch unnaturally hurt Marco, a regenerative type user more hinting he damaged Marco from the insides.

Anyway i dont think this is enough to beat Kaidou, not even close rather this makes Luffy punches only capable of hurting Kaidou and there would be more behind to explain Kaidou defeat like Oda said in the interview.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#45
It isn't so common Haki tho, none of the YC we have seen so far showed it. Which shows why they don't stand a chance against Top tiers.
As for the Top tiers they can have it, bt i think only Rayleigh and possibly Garp are the one that really showed us this Haki so far. Rayleigh broke the Neck chain in Saboady and Garp punch unnaturally hurt Marco, a regenerative type user more hinting he damaged Marco from the insides.

Anyway i dont think this is enough to beat Kaidou, not even close rather this makes Luffy punches only capable of hurting Kaidou and there would be more behind to explain Kaidou defeat like Oda said in the interview.
100 % ray shanks mihawk and the admirals will have this haki.
Again luffy will be a novice using this and will beat kaido with it.
 
#46
100 % ray shanks mihawk and the admirals will have this haki.
Again luffy will be a novice using this and will beat kaido with it.
Yes most likely they might have it.

Luffy will be using some upgrade Gear form to fight Kaidou with it, so that imo seems fair.

Bt like i said Oda had said Luffy won't beat Kaidou just because his punch is so strong, so there might be some mystery about Kaidou rumoured Immortality imo. That could be a factor.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#47
Yes most likely they might have it.

Luffy will be using some upgrade Gear form to fight Kaidou with it, so that imo seems fair.

Bt i remember Oda sayin Luffy won't beat Kaidou just because his punch is so strong, so there might be some mystery about Kaidou rumoured Immortality imo. That could be a factor.
Luffy beats kaido cause zoros swords so sharp...
 
#48
Has he the strength in his arms to hold it?

Anyway Meh, just got clubbed at la Luffy. If you give it to Zoro maybe he will be able to scar him as of now but let's not troll an emperor so much.
 
#53
Sanji will never use a sword
using a sword in a world that mihawk is the strongest swordsman is a huge disgrace for black leg Sanji
 
#54
Sanji needs more than that to get from being babyshaked by Vergo to being relevant to Kaido.
He beaten and baby shake Page One easily who above Vergo? You do realize characters get stronger and face stronger enemies each arc, right?

Though can't say same of Zoro and hus fainting fron shoulder wound performance after Killer easily baby shake him along with others in Wano Arc XD.
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Zoro with raid suit find the All Blue?
Pretty sure he sink into the ocean as he does opposite of flying XD.
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Zoro with raid suit find the All Blue?
Pretty sure he sink into the ocean as he does opposite of flying XD.
Clown its not a magic sword. Nor is sanji a swordsman. If it could beat kaido just cause its a sword hiyori would have killed kaido herself.
He can fight with bladed weapons. Remember his fight with Wanze? He can cut people with weapons if he tried.
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this fight will be "offpaneled"
What's difference with Zoro with past chapters of his off-paneled 'adventures'?
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At least then Sanji will be able to say he actually beat someone strong
He has already for awhile. Can't say same for Zoro especially this arc.
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Has he the strength in his arms to hold it?

Anyway Meh, just got clubbed at la Luffy. If you give it to Zoro maybe he will be able to scar him as of now but let's not troll an emperor so much.
You said not troll a Yonko, but give to the man who faints easily for a shoulder wound on thinking he could last longer?...:gokulaugh:.
 
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#56
On behalf of Zoro fans I would humbly like to apologize to you. We forgot that Sanji has also trained swordsmanship his entire life and aspires to be the strongest swordsman.

Forgive us.
Guess you forget the fight of Wanze to think Sanji isn't train in using weapon if he wants. Not really farfetched him using a sword much.
 
#57
Guess you forget the fight of Wanze to think Sanji isn't train in using weapon if he wants. Not really farfetched him using a sword much.
Ah yes I totally forgot that when he used a kitchen knife to defeat a fodder on his way to ennis lobby.

Oh how could I forgot those skills that he showcased that rival the 2 sword style, 3 sword style, Ashura, and the various techniques of Zoro.

Poor Zoro worked so hard to train his swordsmanship only to find out the crewmate who hasn't trained swordsmanship since he was 5, is as skilled as him.
 
#59
Ah yes I totally forgot that when he used a kitchen knife to defeat a fodder on his way to ennis lobby.

Oh how could I forgot those skills that he showcased that rival the 2 sword style, 3 sword style, Ashura, and the various techniques of Zoro.

Poor Zoro worked so hard to train his swordsmanship only to find out the crewmate who hasn't trained swordsmanship since he was 5, is as skilled as him.
Easily and wasn't fodder at the time in Enies Lobby Arc.

Number of swords or quality doesn't matter. Didn't Mihawk beat Zoro with simple knife game and prior losing to Kuina to her 1 sword style? It's skill, not weapon. Come on now ;).

Also Ashura is pre-timeskip thing. He doesn't use it anymore.

Guess forgetting Sanji was originalky trained to be killing machine, so is aware of using weapons. Helps more Zeff taught him on using blade stuff as shown in his fight.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#60
Guess you forget the fight of Wanze to think Sanji isn't train in using weapon if he wants. Not really farfetched him using a sword much.
Every blade is require practice to develop mastery over skills.

What Sanji used against wanze was lot more similar to kitchen knives as they are more shorter to wield in hands.

Katanas are totally different - they are bigger, and require more muscle to wield and use.

It's like saying I can fire a pistol with accuracy so I can also fire a rifle with accuracy which isn't the case until you practice a lot
 
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