Soba Mask with Enma VS Kaido

can soba mask slay the dragon?

  • of course

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  • sure

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  • yes

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  • definitely

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  • still thinking

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  • 1+1 = 3 and my answer is no to the poll. I also dye my hair gree, color of puke

    Votes: 4 14.8%
  • n.... how to you spell it ...oooo, nnnn! dam :(

    Votes: 13 48.1%

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But Faint Man Zoro can? If he even come in contact with Kaido, he get his body destroy if he can't handle taking heavy damage from Killer who was nerf. Again performance talks and so far, Sanji got better chances than Zoro looking at their Wano Performance.
Faint Man Zoro....

Twirly brow didn’t know how to react to this..

:gokulaugh:

Candi-Boy is behind Luffy and Zoro, I don’t even think there’s a M3 anymore especially since the suit is involved.

No CoA (hardening), Vergo tier chars are a threat and to make things worse he’s now relying on a suit (which he said he wasn’t going to use)

Couldn’t put down a weakened Luffy after multiple hits and Diable Jambe is no longer a threat in the New World.

Even with the suit gets damaged from a city level attack...

Oda needs to give the cook another time skip, better yet just keep him in the kitchen.
 
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Inspector_Mu

Faint Man Zoro....

Twirly brow didn’t know how to react to this..

:gokulaugh:

Candi-Boy is behind Luffy and Zoro, I don’t even think there’s a M3 anymore especially since the suit is involved.

No CoA (hardening), Vergo tier chars are a threat and to make things worse he’s now relying on a suit (which he said he wasn’t going to use)

Couldn’t put down a weakened Luffy after multiple hits and Diable Jambe is no longer a threat in the New World.

Even with the suit gets damaged from a city level attack...

Oda needs to give the cook another time skip, better yet just keep him in the kitchen.
:gokulaugh:gets matched by a fox
While Sanji beats an ancient zoan

You're right :
M3 :
Jinbei
Sanji
Franky
 

Bogard

You can't win
Sanji gets destroyed.

- He isn't a swordsman. He'd fight better with his kicks than a sword
- New grade swords generally need some time of adaptation even for a sword expert like Zoro, let alone Sanji

And RS Sanji is fodder to Kaido. So he'd become even more fodder with the sword

Also I don't think the sword itself is enough to wound Kaido. I'm pretty certain Oden's lvl of swordplay and ryuu played a part into this

Luffy talked about dragon scales durability and Ryuma is also known to have cut a dragon who may have had dragon scales, with Ryuma known to have permanently turned Shusui black, so likely you also need a high lvl of hardening/Ryuu to accomplish that, and Sanji has yet to show hardening
 
:gokulaugh:gets matched by a fox
While Sanji beats an ancient zoan

You're right :
M3 :
Jinbei
Sanji
Franky

Oops someone’s been reading Two-Piece, here is Woro winning .... again

While Sanji beats an ancient zoan

You're right :
M3 :
Jinbei
Sanji

Franky
Do you have the panel of P1 losing ? Don’t worry I’ll wait :whistle:

No No No,

It’s more like the following.
Monster Duo

Luffy & Zoro



Sanji now wearing Germa suit proves he’s below relying on outside sources besides your own.

Luffy and Zoro rely on their training and Haki

Sanji now needs a suit to keep up..
 
There's no such thing. Canon is canon, and non-canon is non-canon.
Oda stated interview tame anime on Canon more on canon fillers. Didn't you know that?
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Skills Sanji does not possess. He's a cook, not a swordsman.
He seen and wield a sword weapon before in childhood and combine that with his knife skills, it is easy for him. Mihawk uses a knife despite his swordsman skills. If your skill enough, you can use weapons easily.
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Faint Man Zoro....

Twirly brow didn’t know how to react to this..

:gokulaugh:

Candi-Boy is behind Luffy and Zoro, I don’t even think there’s a M3 anymore especially since the suit is involved.

No CoA (hardening), Vergo tier chars are a threat and to make things worse he’s now relying on a suit (which he said he wasn’t going to use)

Couldn’t put down a weakened Luffy after multiple hits and Diable Jambe is no longer a threat in the New World.

Even with the suit gets damaged from a city level attack...

Oda needs to give the cook another time skip, better yet just keep him in the kitchen.
If we using pre-timeskip, didn't having trouble getting out of a cage while Sanji saved him and others at Alabasta Arc? Dude we talking about post-timeskip, not past. Past been gone since moment Zoro fainted by Killer Shoulder Wound XD.

Sanji been taking on serious threats and capable to defeat them while Faint Man hasn't beaten anyone credible. Heck he couldn't even beat a Fox for his weapon back. Probably no M3 with Zoro cobdition and Sanji able to fought with or without RS with no issues, it's best to put him more closer to Luffy at this point :cheers:.

He has hardening. Are you reading Two Piece? Lol Sanji held his own with Vergo. He never lost the fight and it ended a the after just from body switching with Nami. Get your facts straight man XD.

Your using Sanji's act to not seriously damage Luffy as his full power? :suresure::suresure::suresure:. Yep Zoro-Brainers strike again as your really reading another series if you expect Sanji to kill his own friends he been with for a long time.

When suit ever get damage? Are you high?

Nah, but do keep Zoro in there. When he stop getting hurt by nails, fainting from the shoulder, beat an animal, handle a serious threat, etc. and then he comes back. Though at this point even Usopp can beat him. At least he can take 4-ton bat to the skull and didn't faint from his fight ;).
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Oops someone’s been reading Two-Piece, here is Woro winning .... again


Do you have the panel of P1 losing ? Don’t worry I’ll wait :whistle:

No No No,

It’s more like the following.
Monster Duo

Luffy & Zoro



Sanji now wearing Germa suit proves he’s below relying on outside sources besides your own.

Luffy and Zoro rely on their training and Haki

Sanji now needs a suit to keep up..
You can't sit on opponent to get defeat, you know that, right? Don't be Loro-Brainer now. You lose when your knockout, kill, or admit defeat. Gyaku never did, so for Zoro not do that with him, he is disgrace to M3 as at least Sanji defeat someone credible and can handle someone without RS too. Also serious? Off-paneled? Guess Blackbeard never defeat Ace then since it was off-panel, guess Sabo is not fighting Admirals in Reverie since it's off-panel, guess Blackbeard never scarred Shanks or defeat Macro since it was off-paneled, and so on. This is Oda, he off-paneled stuff from time to time. Doesn't mean they never happened especially context said otherwise. He even off-paneled Zoro's fights in the arc too. Guess we can assume, Zoro didn't get the sword or what happened to Hiyori since it's off-paneled huh? Take your Two-Piece logic somewhere else when your ready to debate hard facts in with users :funky:.

Who said he stop training or getting stronger just because he use an RS? It's the skill, not weapon for a user. By that logic, Zoro if he does get Enma is strong by sword, not by him XD.

Sanji still relies on his own fighting as shown with Drake without RS. Drake could hardly touch him and Sanji wasn't even focusing him and was more concern with others in the big brawl lol.

Monster Duo will also be Luffy and Sanji now. Zoro can joined the Weakling Trio though. Since Usopp got Haki and moving up, he can take his spot :myman:.
 
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If we using pre-timeskip, didn't having trouble getting out of a cage while Sanji saved him and others at Alabasta Arc? Dude we talking about post-timeskip, not past. Past been gone since moment Zoro fainted by Killer Shoulder Wound XD.

Sanji been taking on serious threats and capable to defeat them while Faint Man hasn't beaten anyone credible. Heck he couldn't even beat a Fox for his weapon back. Probably no M3 with Zoro cobdition and Sanji able to fought with or without RS with no issues, it's best to put him more closer to Luffy at this point :cheers:.
LMAO, what kind of logic is this just because you choose not bring up the pre-timeskip doesn't mean it doesn't matter.

Tell you what, the second Oda no-longer brings up pre-ts, I won't either (SPOILER ALERT -- Oda will always mention pre-ts)

Really who's the serious threat he managed to fend off and win ??

Vergo would have killed him , Doffy no-diffed him (saved by Law) , and P1 is ambiguous..

He has hardening. Are you reading Two Piece? Lol Sanji held his own with Vergo. He never lost the fight and it ended a the after just from body switching with Nami. Get your facts straight man XD.
Please give me a panel of Sanji using hardening and I'll truly apologize, also he pretty much admitted he was going to lose that fight, was his body damaged ? YES, but the gap is so massive its stupid. Vergo didn't use his bamboo , or haki, Sanji whipped out Diable Jamble and surprised him and still didn't managed to pull a win.

Your using Sanji's act to not seriously damage Luffy as his full power? :suresure::suresure::suresure:. Yep Zoro-Brainers strike again as your really reading another series if you expect Sanji to kill his own friends he been with for a long time.
Sanji was dead serious, the problem here is that Luffy gave him Bellamy treatment he's not worthy to fight for Luffy.

When suit ever get damage? Are you high?
Sanji was damaged not the suit go back and read the chapter lmao major case of two-piece when you think he wasn't damaged when he says so himself :suresure:

Nah, but do keep Zoro in there. When he stop getting hurt by nails, fainting from the shoulder, beat an animal, handle a serious threat, etc. and then he comes back. Though at this point even Usopp can beat him. At least he can take 4-ton bat to the skull and didn't faint from his fight ;).
LOL Stop it Moe you're embarrassing your self.
NAILS: Hawkins powered up form only managed to scratch Zoro :finally:
SHOULDER : wound was tanked and continued to one-shot faints afterwards due to malnutrition
EASILY CRUSHED :Gyukimaru

cmon Moe-Kun we all know Sanji is lagging behind hence he needs the suit.

You can't sit on opponent to get defeat, you know that, right? Don't be Loro-Brainer now. You lose when your knockout, kill, or admit defeat. Gyaku never did, so for Zoro not do that with him, he is disgrace to M3 as at least Sanji defeat someone credible and can handle someone without RS too. Also serious? Off-paneled? Guess Blackbeard never defeat Ace then since it was off-panel, guess Sabo is not fighting Admirals in Reverie since it's off-panel, guess Blackbeard never scarred Shanks or defeat Macro since it was off-paneled, and so on. This is Oda, he off-paneled stuff from time to time. Doesn't mean they never happened especially context said otherwise. He even off-paneled Zoro's fights in the arc too. Guess we can assume, Zoro didn't get the sword or what happened to Hiyori since it's off-paneled huh? Take your Two-Piece logic somewhere else when your ready to debate hard facts in with users :funky:.

Who said he stop training or getting stronger just because he use an RS? It's the skill, not weapon for a user. By that logic, Zoro if he does get Enma is strong by sword, not by him XD.

Sanji still relies on his own fighting as shown with Drake without RS. Drake could hardly touch him and Sanji wasn't even focusing him and was more concern with others in the big brawl lol.

Monster Duo will also be Luffy and Sanji now. Zoro can joined the Weakling Trio though. Since Usopp got Haki and moving up, he can take his spot :myman:.
LMAO this whole post is a joke cmon Moe-Kun not sure what time it is where you are but it's bed time go to sleep and come back.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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How did this thread get so big?

Maybe if you make it a hundred Sanji's all with this layout, they could probably do some damage.
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Sanji gets destroyed.

- He isn't a swordsman. He'd fight better with his kicks than a sword
- New grade swords generally need some time of adaptation even for a sword expert like Zoro, let alone Sanji

And RS Sanji is fodder to Kaido. So he'd become even more fodder with the sword

Also I don't think the sword itself is enough to wound Kaido. I'm pretty certain Oden's lvl of swordplay and ryuu played a part into this

Luffy talked about dragon scales durability and Ryuma is also known to have cut a dragon who may have had dragon scales, with Ryuma known to have permanently turned Shusui black, so likely you also need a high lvl of hardening/Ryuu to accomplish that, and Sanji has yet to show hardening
What a poor taste in avatars. Bleach, over the Ginyu Force? What a lack of utter taste.
 
well I would bet you need to be a skilled swordsman to use enma to actually do something with it . assuming oden dealt that blow; he was stronger than top dogs like ashura doji who also fought kaido and called jack a small fry . Not everyone who wields enma or even those that are moderately strong will do as well with a sword than a swordsman. Rs sanji again hasnt shown anything more impressive than what ichiji did with his rs in wci.
Punching perospero out of the way, and dealing a lot of damage to oven who we assume to be prob close to the strongest veteran level fighter in wci only to get one shot by katakuri. page one is a flying six, drake as well and a haki kick from sanji did nothing to full zoan drake but a regular kick sent page one flying even before sanji put on the suit. Page one isnt even confirmed out, sanji has not even said anything about the fight, it was off screened. Zoro getting enma also does not mean he automatically can deal damage to kaido. it isnt a magic blade. surprised this thread made it this far but my answer to this is, he does even worse than luffy did, kaido might break his suit in the process.

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