Speculations Some sparses ideas about Kuma and Luffy

[Etzel Andergast]

This is just very speculative and sparse:

Kuma met Luffy at Foosha, somehow Kuma concluded Luffy is Nika. Then Kuma put a bubble inside Luffy heart, the bubble would contain the sound of the drums of liberation (Oda already show us that Kuma know the rythm). After that Kuma removed Luffy memories and to make the bubble not come back to Luffy, he put the memories in himself.

Considering that had some users of hito hito model nika during these 800 years, only luffy awakened. The ideia is that to make this fruit awakens is necessary the user hear the sound of the drums. So when Luffy "died" at onigashima, the sound of drums that Kuma put inside Luffy finally starts play.

Another idea is about destiny. Foosha means windmill. Dragon said to Kuma go where the winds of destiny flow. Kuma is basically following the winds, following his destiny. Another moment that destiny and Foosha has some connection is when Woop Slap reflect about luffy destiny

How Woop Slap came to this conclusion? He saw Luffy and Kuma meeting? He talked to Kuma?

These are the ideas I wanted bring to you












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[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Kuma is Luffy's first Nakama.
Kuma asked to join Luffy and Luffy said Yes.
Kuma erased Luffy's memory.

 

[ShinichiMugi]

I think Kuma is probably on Foosha to meet with Dragon one last time before he becomes full robotic. Dragon is probably there to observe Luffy. After all it seems he was worried for Luffy at the beginning,otherwise he would have not been there for him in LogueTown against Smoker. But its possible that observing Luffy Kuma might have had an intuition about Luffy possibly being Nika. Thats why Kuma knew about Luffy being Dragon's son in Thriller Bark.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Kuma is Luffy's first Nakama.
Kuma asked to join Luffy and Luffy said Yes.
Kuma erased Luffy's memory.

You are saying that because you dont wanna anyone more on the crew
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I think Kuma is probably on Foosha to meet with Dragon one last time before he becomes full robotic. Dragon is probably there to observe Luffy. After all it seems he was worried for Luffy at the beginning,otherwise he would have not been there for him in LogueTown against Smoker. But its possible that observing Luffy Kuma might have had an intuition about Luffy possibly being Nika. Thats why Kuma knew about Luffy being Dragon's son in Thriller Bark.

Would be so lame

 

[Paperchampion23]

Kuma is Luffy's first Nakama.
Kuma asked to join Luffy and Luffy said Yes.
Kuma erased Luffy's memory.

Question Id have would be why though lol. I guess Dragon told Kuma about his son, that much I get, but it seems only Shanks is aware of what the Gomu fruit really was.

Dont get me wrong, I entirely believe their interaction in 1101 will occur and he will erase Luffy's memory of him, that much just seems obvious at this point. The question is why

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

You are saying that because you dont wanna anyone more on the crew

Aiiiii !!
Oda can't even handle 10 Nakama.
5 strawhats were enough, there was no point of adding more.
It's not side characters fault. 10 main characters are too much.

But I didn't said it because of that.
I think Oda's hint was always about Kuma.
Kuma's role is ship guardian

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Aiiiii !!
Oda can't even handle 10 Nakama.
5 strawhats were enough, there was no point adding more.
It's not side characters fault. 10 main characters are too much

Oda can handle until 7 members, when Franky joined was the moment he can't do it well anymore

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Kuma met Luffy at Foosha, somehow Kuma concluded Luffy is Nika. Then Kuma put a bubble inside Luffy heart, the bubble would contain the sound of the drums of liberation (Oda already show us that Kuma know the rythm). After that Kuma removed Luffy memories and to make the bubble not come back to Luffy, he put the memories in himself.

Considering that had some users of hito hito model nika during these 800 years, only luffy awakened. The ideia is that to make this fruit awakens is necessary the user hear the sound of the drums. So when Luffy "died" at onigashima, the sound of drums that Kuma put inside Luffy finally starts play.

This would somewhat save Kuma's character for me. But I'd like a combination of the two speculations.

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Question Id have would be why though lol. I guess Dragon told Kuma about his son, that much I get, but it seems only Shanks is aware of what the Gomu fruit really was.

Dont get me wrong, I entirely believe their interaction in 1101 will occur and he will erase Luffy's memory of him, that much just seems obvious at this point. The question is why

I think world government ordered Kuma to kill Luffy and obtain gomu gomu no mi.
Vegapunk could have told him about Gomu Gomu no mi.

 

[ShinichiMugi]

You are saying that because you dont wanna anyone more on the crew
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Would be so lame

How does Kuma know that Luffy is Dragon's son then? He is in Foosha to meet with Dragon,its clear not "lame".

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Question Id have would be why though lol. I guess Dragon told Kuma about his son, that much I get, but it seems only Shanks is aware of what the Gomu fruit really was.

Dont get me wrong, I entirely believe their interaction in 1101 will occur and he will erase Luffy's memory of him, that much just seems obvious at this point. The question is why

We have to wait. But I still believe Kuma concluded that Luffy is Nika. He wouldnt chose as his last wish keep sunny safe, if the only thing he knew about Luffy is that he is Dragon son. Instead he would chose as his last wish something related to Bonney.

 

[Reborn]

Interesting takes...good thread

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Interesting takes...good thread

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[Rambles]

Another sparse idea: I have long thought about what Kuma wants at Luffy's home town. If he is there because of his own interest in Nika, I definitely could understand it. As he is the one person, who knows what Nika is capable of and would heIp him, if it was required. This is why I also at one time even thought about that maybe Kuma had followed the SHP's all the way during pre-TS without them noticing him - just to make sure they are ok. He is definitely someone, who would do something like that for another person.

Then I have thought about what it would mean, if he wasn't there on his own accord. What if, the WG had called him and said: "Kuma, sail to Foosha village in the east blue and wait for more orders there." This would mean Kuma is maybe tasked with killing Nika of something like this.

I think what Kuma is going to do, remains a wild guess.