Spoiler Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1057 Spoilers Discussion

[Hanzo hattori]

Really?! good thing I stopped reading the manga

 

[Indigo]

"But Orochi didn't try to be better"

how fucking stupid can you be?

you go and try to be "better" after your entire country turns on you, hunts and kills your father, mother, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, grandmothers and grandfathers

solely based on the actions of a few members of the clan

If i had Orochi's childhood, i would've gone fucking nuts, much worse than he did

This stupid fucks keep saying "But Orochi is the terrorist", don't you understand the same arguments you are using against Orochi also apply to Hiyori here? and that's the fucking point

 

[Ballel]

R

Try to see Orochi's viewpoint
he was discriminated against BECAUSE he was a Kurozumi NOTHING ELSE
that's what Hyori is saying : IF YOU ARE A KUROZUMI YOU MUST BURN LIKE A PIG
wich makes no sense in One Piece for a supposedly "good" character

Try to put yourself in Hiyori's shoes.

I can't stand this modern habit of feeling sympathy for every bad guy while holding the good guys to some higher moral standard.

 

[Monster Luffy]

If i had Orochi's childhood, i would've gone fucking nuts, much worse than he did

Then how is Hiyori in the wrong for what she said against Orochi?

 

[Indigo]

"But Orochi didn't try to be better"

how fucking stupid can you be?

you go and try to be "better" after your entire country turns on you, hunts and kills your father, mother, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, grandmothers and grandfathers

solely based on the actions of a few members of the clan

If i had Orochi's childhood, i would've gone fucking nuts, much worse than he did

This stupid fucks keep saying "But Orochi is the terrorist", don't you understand the same arguments you are using against Orochi also apply to Hiyori here? and that's the fucking point

If the only thing Oda showed was Hiyori saying that bullshit on her own, then fine

But the people of Wano making this massive celebration as they cheer seeing a person being burned

and saying every single Kurozumi is born to be burned alive

is completely fucked up

but if you can't understand that, then you're lost

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Then how is Hiyori in the wrong for what she said against Orochi?

Read this

If the only thing Oda showed was Hiyori saying that bullshit on her own, then fine

But the people of Wano making this massive celebration as they cheer seeing a person being burned

and saying every single Kurozumi is born to be burned alive

is completely fucked up

but if you can't understand that, then you're lost

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

No more meltdowns we moving on

 

[Indigo]

R

Try to put yourself in Hiyori's shoes.

I can't stand this modern habit of feeling sympathy for every bad guy while holding the good guys to some higher moral standard.

Solis, the problem isn't Hiyori saying that shit to herself or thinking the that

The problem is the people of Wano, as a group, celebrating and watching them burn Orochi

while they chant the entire clan must be burned alive if they were born

and this is the "heroes" ending for Wano

you really can't see the problem here?

The people of Wano have 0 regrets or any problems at all with what they've done to the Kurozumi clan

 

[TheSufferingGob]

Really?! good thing I stopped reading the manga

Gonna be honest unless it is as good as season 1s animation manga will probably be better cause Murata's art hits peak.

 

[Ballel]

The problem here is Oda going against his established narrative at the very last second.

It's the same with the Yamato debacle. From the moment she was introduced she's been loudly declaring wanting to leave Wano and joining Luffy on his journey, only for her to come from left field and change her mind at the last second.

You already gave yourself the answer.
Oda cut EVERYTHING short in Wano.
Won't be surprised if Tama or Toko are revealed to be Kurozumi in a coverstory.
Why in a coverstory?
Bc Oda makes 50% of the whole arc direct to coverstory/SBS/vivre card.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

R

Try to put yourself in Hiyori's shoes.

I can't stand this modern habit of feeling sympathy for every bad guy while holding the good guys to some higher moral standard.

Again. Hiyori personal opinion is justified.


What bad is her view is being enforced to kids in school

 

[Indigo]

Won't be surprised if Tama or Toko are revealed to be Kurozumi in a coverstory.

only to be burned alive? seems kinda fucked up

 

[TheSufferingGob]

"But Orochi didn't try to be better"

how fucking stupid can you be?

you go and try to be "better" after your entire country turns on you, hunts and kills your father, mother, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, grandmothers and grandfathers

solely based on the actions of a few members of the clan

If i had Orochi's childhood, i would've gone fucking nuts, much worse than he did

This stupid fucks keep saying "But Orochi is the terrorist", don't you understand the same arguments you are using against Orochi also apply to Hiyori here? and that's the fucking point

It also sets a bad precedent for the future of Wano especially considering how Wano teaches kids events.

 

[Hedfi]

You already gave yourself the answer.
Oda cut EVERYTHING short in Wano.
Won't be surprised if Tama or Toko are revealed to be Kurozumi in a coverstory.
Why in a coverstory?
Bc Oda makes 50% of the whole arc direct to coverstory/SBS/vivre card.

That won't change the fact that it's a garbage writing.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

You meant this

LOL

 

[TheSufferingGob]

Hiyori basically taught Wano once somebody commits a crime wipe out their kin cause they may become the next Orochi. So we better nip it in the bud.

 

[Ballel]

Solis, the problem isn't Hiyori saying that shit to herself or thinking the that

The problem is the people of Wano, as a group, celebrating and watching them burn Orochi

while they chant the entire clan must be burned alive if they were born

and this is the "heroes" ending for Wano

you really can't see the problem here?

The people of Wano have 0 regrets or any problems at all with what they've done to the Kurozumi clan

I do see the problem. And I do not agree with their stance.

Nazi conclusion for Nazi country (Japan).
The borders are not open yet.
Why are you people acting surprised over an unfinished plotline?
Wano's relevance won't end with the arc.
Do you kids need everything spelled out for you?!

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only to be burned alive? seems kinda fucked up

Why burned alive???

 

[Indigo]

I do see the problem. And I do not agree with their stance.

Nazi conclusion for Nazi country (Japan).
The borders are not open yet.
Why are you people acting surprised over an unfinished plotline?
Wano's relevance won't end with the arc.
Do you kids need everything spelled out for you?!

I don't think that's what Oda wants us to think at all

this is the goodbye to an Island after the Straw Hats went there

it's meant to be freed and with the right leader on top now

that's how every single arc goes

this right here, is what Oda thinks the heroes should be doing

 

[Ballel]

That won't change the fact that it's a garbage writing.

applies to almost everything in Wano
Come on guys, you lot have zero reading comprehension.

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

R

Try to put yourself in Hiyori's shoes.

I can't stand this modern habit of feeling sympathy for every bad guy while holding the good guys to some higher moral standard.

Hyori could have simply talked about OROCHI'S being evil , she didn't have to mention the Kurozumi even one bit , YET SHE DID , she's linking Orochi's actions to the entire Kurozumi clan , so now there will be innocent kids persecuted.
Hyori's words are straight up evil.
Wich i wouldn't mind if she was a evil character but she's not

 

[Indigo]

Why burned alive???

Because they would be Kurozumi

and the entire Wano country is chanting that every Kurozumi was born to be burned

if they found out they were from the Kurozumi, they would burn them