Spoiler Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1057 Spoilers Discussion
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showing you the real face of wano culture for one reason or another. a shocking and weird scene but i kind of like that it went this way instead of everyone suddenly turning nice and quitting being prejudiced because luffy punched kaido really hard
isnt it a stage play or something? she's not getting the kids to say it, she's crying watching the propaganda according to spoilers
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isnt it a stage play or something? she's not getting the kids to say it, she's crying watching the propaganda according to spoilers
I have no words...lol
thought the way Oda concluded Yamato's character was the worst part of the chapter (and I'm no Yamato fan
) but clearly I didn't give man enough credit
"The Kurozumi are born to burn"
You really can't make this shit up lol. Just for a useless gag that most of the western audience won't even get
Not addressing the issue is already poor enough but then he decides to conclude that plot line in the most despicable way possible and this is the man some call a writing genius
What an utter shit-show this arc has been and frankly I'm glad to see the back of it.
thought the way Oda concluded Yamato's character was the worst part of the chapter (and I'm no Yamato fan
) but clearly I didn't give man enough credit"The Kurozumi are born to burn"
You really can't make this shit up lol. Just for a useless gag that most of the western audience won't even get
Not addressing the issue is already poor enough but then he decides to conclude that plot line in the most despicable way possible and this is the man some call a writing genius
What an utter shit-show this arc has been and frankly I'm glad to see the back of it.
Actually he was. That’s what Otohime was talking about. The hatred would naturally just spread to the children
whether the children had even ever seen a human or not, the hatred would get instilled in them.
and that’s what happened to Hody
Hody saying no human did anything him isn’t the same as he is acting completely out of nowhere with no reasoning
whether the children had even ever seen a human or not, the hatred would get instilled in them.
and that’s what happened to Hody
Hody saying no human did anything him isn’t the same as he is acting completely out of nowhere with no reasoning
hes acting because he sees how racism controls people and goes "oh dude i can control people WITH racism". he's not acting out of revenge, or a personal sense of justice, or fear, or hatred. hes just an evil fuck who has eyes sharp enough to see how the world works and take advantage of it. this is just the kind of person that arises in societies with racist undercurrents
Not this is just bad writing. You know why
1. Oda did what you just said. In act 1 and 2, the flower capital people were the rich class that oppressed the lower class. And then in act 3 it’s revealed that they were all nice people ALL ALONG and them oppressing these people the rest of the year doesn’t matter because on the fire festival they give them water and shit
2. Hiyori is not being portrayed to be wrong here. She’s getting kids to shout her bigotry at the end of the arc like it’s a triumphant act. If you want to portray this a “cycle of hatred and revenge”, why is this the victorious end to the arc that’s being applauded by children? Why not show anyone being put off by this? Sukiyaki? Momo? The teacher who is an old man sitting next to her? For all intents and purposes, this is a GOOD THING that Oda is saying is happening right now
So the fact that it contradicts several themses of the story is Oda being ironic. It’s him being a bad writer
1. Oda did what you just said. In act 1 and 2, the flower capital people were the rich class that oppressed the lower class. And then in act 3 it’s revealed that they were all nice people ALL ALONG and them oppressing these people the rest of the year doesn’t matter because on the fire festival they give them water and shit
2. Hiyori is not being portrayed to be wrong here. She’s getting kids to shout her bigotry at the end of the arc like it’s a triumphant act. If you want to portray this a “cycle of hatred and revenge”, why is this the victorious end to the arc that’s being applauded by children? Why not show anyone being put off by this? Sukiyaki? Momo? The teacher who is an old man sitting next to her? For all intents and purposes, this is a GOOD THING that Oda is saying is happening right now
So the fact that it contradicts several themses of the story is Oda being ironic. It’s him being a bad writer
1 the fire festival isnt to reveal that the flower capital people are nice, its meant to be tragic that this is the wano peoples one day of happiness and equality. they werent nice all along and that was never part of the story. the "good" payoff at the end is that momonosuke says the festival is going to continue and no one will go without clean water ever again. its not that the festival was good its that finally no one has to look forward to the festival to get food and water. there are plenty of missteps in this arc, you dont need to invent ones that arent there.
2. are you sure? the spoilers are not saying hiyori herself is saying the kurozumi have to burn. its a show, in an auditorium, presented by the wano propaganda teacher guy. it actually says hiyori is crying while watching this. you say "why not show anyone being put off by this" but according to spoilers hiyori HERSELF is put off by this because the teacher is putting words in her mouth.
2. are you sure? the spoilers are not saying hiyori herself is saying the kurozumi have to burn. its a show, in an auditorium, presented by the wano propaganda teacher guy. it actually says hiyori is crying while watching this. you say "why not show anyone being put off by this" but according to spoilers hiyori HERSELF is put off by this because the teacher is putting words in her mouth.
Hilarious that this is your conclusion after telling me that I didn’t read the arc
you actually think nothing Otohime said about hatred spreading to children connects to Hody at all? Like do you think it’s a coincidence that it’s Otohime’s son that is the one that is told by Hody that humans did nothing to him. And then that same son is the one that later says Otohime was right and then he starts spearheading Otohime’s campaign to get signatures
You think both Otohime’s words and the fact that this scene happened between Otohime’s son ARE UNCONNECTED whatsoever to Hody’s character???
Hilarious. And you were telling ME that I didn’t read the arc???
you actually think nothing Otohime said about hatred spreading to children connects to Hody at all? Like do you think it’s a coincidence that it’s Otohime’s son that is the one that is told by Hody that humans did nothing to him. And then that same son is the one that later says Otohime was right and then he starts spearheading Otohime’s campaign to get signatures
You think both Otohime’s words and the fact that this scene happened between Otohime’s son ARE UNCONNECTED whatsoever to Hody’s character???
Hilarious. And you were telling ME that I didn’t read the arc???
yeah i dont think you read the arc because you don't seem to understand what happened in it. otohime's son saying hody is a product of his environment doesnt mean hody is racist. the entire point of that reveal is that he ISN'T motivated by racism directly, he's motivated by opportunism because the environment he grew up in was racist, so he learned how it was possible to use that racism to manipulate the environment. hody kills his own people. he doesn't care one way or another about anything but power
and now you're not even reading the spoilers because you're acting like its a totally different scene than what redon described. "why isnt anyone reacting" "hiyori said this" when the teacher guy and the kids said it along with a story, and she's the one crying watching the propaganda.
and now you're not even reading the spoilers because you're acting like its a totally different scene than what redon described. "why isnt anyone reacting" "hiyori said this" when the teacher guy and the kids said it along with a story, and she's the one crying watching the propaganda.
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