Powers & Abilities SSoS (Stop Sleeping on Supernovas)

#22
I mean I don't see how someone can believe Capone and Luffy or Zoro to be equally matched.

Just like the Shichibukai were/are not, also the nova are quite different that wise.

However they share a big plot armor and I'm fairly sure each single of them is meant to make it to EoS, specifically the last war. And that is because they represent the heart of the new generation of pirates.
Pretty much. The only thing they have in common is the massive plot armor.
 
#24
Zoro already one shoted 2 of them. Luffy has a bounty of 1.5 billions and has defeated 2 YC characters while a bunch of supernovas belong to yonko crews and are below YC.
I'm just doing the math.

Only reason I put Law and Kidd apart is that at least they don't cower in front of yonkos. I respect them for that.
Ok if you start the argument with "Zoro already one shotted 2 of them" you decided to completely ignore what I wrote in the post, plain and simple
Good job

Nah. Imma stay sleeping on them.

Keep sleeping, you gonna have a bad wake up :myman:
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Brook sayed the same thing about queen "it goin be a difficult task" BROOK YC2-YC1 CONFIRM
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#25
I agree no supernova is going to get stomped by another SN, its just not in Oda's narrative, but I think if we were to 'DBZ' power level thing there is a huge gap between Luffy and the bottom of the pile, (Capone, Bonney, some might say Apoo). The bottom guys are one trick ponies, who after you figure them out, its relatively easy to defeat them, but they are definitely hard matchups without intel. Look at Apoo knocking out guys left and right before Killer says "lol cover your ears". To me, he was a little overpowered until he got hard countered by "plugging your ears". Capone is on the reverse end. He has really poor offensive capability, but his defensive abilities are top notch. The higher up you go in Supernova Ranking, the less apparent the weaknesses are but all of them deserve respect as capable pirates.
 
#28
The thing is the strawhats will eventually be on a different level than most supernovas. It might even happen at the end of Wano. But right now, they are on the same level in the sense that they cant low/mid-diff one another.

The biggest argument against it is Luffy himself because he defeated Doflamingo, then Cracker, and then Katakuri. He also has a 1.5 billion bounty and falsely called as the fifth yonko. Can other supernovas beat Katakuri? Probably they cant, but they will give Kuri way more trouble than people believe. Uruge already defeated a sweet commander. Kidd injured a sweet commander and stole something. So they are not scrub to Katakuri.

Luffy is probably the strongest of the group. However, the moment he faced Kaido, he got one shotted. I still remember people were ridiculing Kidd and his alliance because they got destroyed by Kaido. The result was exactly the same when Luffy faced Kaido, which means their distance from the WSC is nearly the same. In fact, Kidd and Killer probably did better than Luffy as they didnt get one shotted.

In Udon prison, its kind of obvious what Oda was doing with Kidd. Him having CoC, getting panels side by side "I will get you Kaido", carrying equal amount of rocks, healing at an abnormal pace like Luffy; stuffing, and shrinking also at an abnormal pace like Luffy all hints him being close to Luffy in terms of strength.

This is a long anticipated arc where most supernovas gathered at the same place. The last time something similar happened was at Sabaody. I highly doubt Oda will show at their first meeting how Luffy or Zoro is so far ahead than other supernovas of worst generation.
 
#29
The thing is the strawhats will eventually be on a different level than most supernovas. It might even happen at the end of Wano. But right now, they are on the same level in the sense that they cant low/mid-diff one another.

The biggest argument against it is Luffy himself because he defeated Doflamingo, then Cracker, and then Katakuri. He also has a 1.5 billion bounty and falsely called as the fifth yonko. Can other supernovas beat Katakuri? Probably they cant, but they will give Kuri way more trouble than people believe. Uruge already defeated a sweet commander. Kidd injured a sweet commander and stole something. So they are not scrub to Katakuri.

Luffy is probably the strongest of the group. However, the moment he faced Kaido, he got one shotted. I still remember people were ridiculing Kidd and his alliance because they got destroyed by Kaido. The result was exactly the same when Luffy faced Kaido, which means their distance from the WSC is nearly the same. In fact, Kidd and Killer probably did better than Luffy as they didnt get one shotted.

In Udon prison, its kind of obvious what Oda was doing with Kidd. Him having CoC, getting panels side by side "I will get you Kaido", carrying equal amount of rocks, healing at an abnormal pace like Luffy; stuffing, and shrinking also at an abnormal pace like Luffy all hints him being close to Luffy in terms of strength.

This is a long anticipated arc where most supernovas gathered at the same place. The last time something similar happened was at Sabaody. I highly doubt Oda will show at their first meeting how Luffy or Zoro is so far ahead than other supernovas of worst generation.
I have literally nothing to add :cheers:
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#34
I would like people to stop sleeping on featless characters in general. It's a pain to hear that someone is weak only because their Pre TS counterpart was weak. As if we specifically knew what they went through during the TS or even if what they showed during Pre TS was their true potential.
 
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