General & Others STORYTELLING - Gear 5 is amazing
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Not a retcon
I understand this point but you also need to understand that those type of centralized gouvernment are usually not very efficient and the fruit was non awakened for 800 years. So they just did like the other previous them, they just look at it on a side eye.
We need to understand that in good story, people make mistakes.
Yes, them. Those type of gouvernment are highgly ineficient. Them getting rid of precise target doesn mean that they don't make huge mistake and have huge blind spot.
No
Good storyteller knows that characters and strong instances make mistakes.
Of course I'm a One Piece stan, that's not an insult lmao And I also know when to criticize Oda, and yes, Wano was amazing. :)
Yup
This wouldn't have been too much. Nika is indeed more than a name, but its only the SURFACE of the revelation. Revealing clues or putting more plantings than there is wouldn't lead to readers understanding very well what the nature of the fruit is. Oda didn't take that risk, that's why he put so little time between Nika's planting and the revelation.
Because again, the reveal of the name and what it symbolically entails is just the surface of the revelation, Oda already did enough plantings to create a good revelation like I showed with the transformations and the actions of Luffy.
Author must be really careful not to give to much. Especially when you want people to be incredibly surprised.
Indeed, only when he adds things to his lore Oda must be taken seriously. Comments like "this is just a simple story" shouldn't be taken seriously looking at the reality of the story itself.
We should not care when Oda has an idea, unless you want to create an analysis about his writing process.
The job of an author is to link his future work with his past work and his past work with his future work. Connecting thing retroactively (even tho its most likely not true in that case) is not something that is bad, its something that is recommended.
You didn't watch close enough
Oda is not taking you for a moron, he is thinking that you are able to decifer that by yourself.
We know what this awakening does because of the gourosai, the awekening seems to be something that can happen unconsciously and we already know that Luffy can do thing unconciously (Luffy being dead or alive is still not sure)
Oda planted that in the beginning of the arc
Charming
I understand this point but you also need to understand that those type of centralized gouvernment are usually not very efficient and the fruit was non awakened for 800 years. So they just did like the other previous them, they just look at it on a side eye.
We need to understand that in good story, people make mistakes.
Yes, them. Those type of gouvernment are highgly ineficient. Them getting rid of precise target doesn mean that they don't make huge mistake and have huge blind spot.
No
Good storyteller knows that characters and strong instances make mistakes.
Of course I'm a One Piece stan, that's not an insult lmao And I also know when to criticize Oda, and yes, Wano was amazing. :)
Yup
This wouldn't have been too much. Nika is indeed more than a name, but its only the SURFACE of the revelation. Revealing clues or putting more plantings than there is wouldn't lead to readers understanding very well what the nature of the fruit is. Oda didn't take that risk, that's why he put so little time between Nika's planting and the revelation.
Because again, the reveal of the name and what it symbolically entails is just the surface of the revelation, Oda already did enough plantings to create a good revelation like I showed with the transformations and the actions of Luffy.
Author must be really careful not to give to much. Especially when you want people to be incredibly surprised.
Indeed, only when he adds things to his lore Oda must be taken seriously. Comments like "this is just a simple story" shouldn't be taken seriously looking at the reality of the story itself.
We should not care when Oda has an idea, unless you want to create an analysis about his writing process.
The job of an author is to link his future work with his past work and his past work with his future work. Connecting thing retroactively (even tho its most likely not true in that case) is not something that is bad, its something that is recommended.
You didn't watch close enough
Oda is not taking you for a moron, he is thinking that you are able to decifer that by yourself.
We know what this awakening does because of the gourosai, the awekening seems to be something that can happen unconsciously and we already know that Luffy can do thing unconciously (Luffy being dead or alive is still not sure)
Oda planted that in the beginning of the arc
Charming
Not a retcon
I understand this point but you also need to understand that those type of centralized gouvernment are usually not very efficient and the fruit was non awakened for 800 years. So they just did like the other previous them, they just look at it on a side eye.
We need to understand that in good story, people make mistakes.
Yes, them. Those type of gouvernment are highgly ineficient. Them getting rid of precise target doesn mean that they don't make huge mistake and have huge blind spot.
No
Good storyteller knows that characters and strong instances make mistakes.
Of course I'm a One Piece stan, that's not an insult lmao And I also know when to criticize Oda, and yes, Wano was amazing. :)
Yup
This wouldn't have been too much. Nika is indeed more than a name, but its only the SURFACE of the revelation. Revealing clues or putting more plantings than there is wouldn't lead to readers understanding very well what the nature of the fruit is. Oda didn't take that risk, that's why he put so little time between Nika's planting and the revelation.
Because again, the reveal of the name and what it symbolically entails is just the surface of the revelation, Oda already did enough plantings to create a good revelation like I showed with the transformations and the actions of Luffy.
Author must be really careful not to give to much. Especially when you want people to be incredibly surprised.
Indeed, only when he adds things to his lore Oda must be taken seriously. Comments like "this is just a simple story" shouldn't be taken seriously looking at the reality of the story itself.
We should not care when Oda has an idea, unless you want to create an analysis about his writing process.
The job of an author is to link his future work with his past work and his past work with his future work. Connecting thing retroactively (even tho its most likely not true in that case) is not something that is bad, its something that is recommended.
You didn't watch close enough
Oda is not taking you for a moron, he is thinking that you are able to decifer that by yourself.
We know what this awakening does because of the gourosai, the awekening seems to be something that can happen unconsciously and we already know that Luffy can do thing unconciously (Luffy being dead or alive is still not sure)
Oda planted that in the beginning of the arc
Charming
I understand this point but you also need to understand that those type of centralized gouvernment are usually not very efficient and the fruit was non awakened for 800 years. So they just did like the other previous them, they just look at it on a side eye.
We need to understand that in good story, people make mistakes.
Yes, them. Those type of gouvernment are highgly ineficient. Them getting rid of precise target doesn mean that they don't make huge mistake and have huge blind spot.
No
Good storyteller knows that characters and strong instances make mistakes.
Of course I'm a One Piece stan, that's not an insult lmao And I also know when to criticize Oda, and yes, Wano was amazing. :)
Yup
This wouldn't have been too much. Nika is indeed more than a name, but its only the SURFACE of the revelation. Revealing clues or putting more plantings than there is wouldn't lead to readers understanding very well what the nature of the fruit is. Oda didn't take that risk, that's why he put so little time between Nika's planting and the revelation.
Because again, the reveal of the name and what it symbolically entails is just the surface of the revelation, Oda already did enough plantings to create a good revelation like I showed with the transformations and the actions of Luffy.
Author must be really careful not to give to much. Especially when you want people to be incredibly surprised.
Indeed, only when he adds things to his lore Oda must be taken seriously. Comments like "this is just a simple story" shouldn't be taken seriously looking at the reality of the story itself.
We should not care when Oda has an idea, unless you want to create an analysis about his writing process.
The job of an author is to link his future work with his past work and his past work with his future work. Connecting thing retroactively (even tho its most likely not true in that case) is not something that is bad, its something that is recommended.
You didn't watch close enough
Oda is not taking you for a moron, he is thinking that you are able to decifer that by yourself.
We know what this awakening does because of the gourosai, the awekening seems to be something that can happen unconsciously and we already know that Luffy can do thing unconciously (Luffy being dead or alive is still not sure)
Oda planted that in the beginning of the arc
Charming
Not a retcon
I understand this point but you also need to understand that those type of centralized gouvernment are usually not very efficient and the fruit was non awakened for 800 years. So they just did like the other previous them, they just look at it on a side eye.
We need to understand that in good story, people make mistakes.
Yes, them. Those type of gouvernment are highgly ineficient. Them getting rid of precise target doesn mean that they don't make huge mistake and have huge blind spot.
No
Good storyteller knows that characters and strong instances make mistakes.
Of course I'm a One Piece stan, that's not an insult lmao And I also know when to criticize Oda, and yes, Wano was amazing. :)
Yup
This wouldn't have been too much. Nika is indeed more than a name, but its only the SURFACE of the revelation. Revealing clues or putting more plantings than there is wouldn't lead to readers understanding very well what the nature of the fruit is. Oda didn't take that risk, that's why he put so little time between Nika's planting and the revelation.
Because again, the reveal of the name and what it symbolically entails is just the surface of the revelation, Oda already did enough plantings to create a good revelation like I showed with the transformations and the actions of Luffy.
Author must be really careful not to give to much. Especially when you want people to be incredibly surprised.
Indeed, only when he adds things to his lore Oda must be taken seriously. Comments like "this is just a simple story" shouldn't be taken seriously looking at the reality of the story itself.
We should not care when Oda has an idea, unless you want to create an analysis about his writing process.
The job of an author is to link his future work with his past work and his past work with his future work. Connecting thing retroactively (even tho its most likely not true in that case) is not something that is bad, its something that is recommended.
You didn't watch close enough
Oda is not taking you for a moron, he is thinking that you are able to decifer that by yourself.
We know what this awakening does because of the gourosai, the awekening seems to be something that can happen unconsciously and we already know that Luffy can do thing unconciously (Luffy being dead or alive is still not sure)
Oda planted that in the beginning of the arc
Charming
I understand this point but you also need to understand that those type of centralized gouvernment are usually not very efficient and the fruit was non awakened for 800 years. So they just did like the other previous them, they just look at it on a side eye.
We need to understand that in good story, people make mistakes.
Yes, them. Those type of gouvernment are highgly ineficient. Them getting rid of precise target doesn mean that they don't make huge mistake and have huge blind spot.
No
Good storyteller knows that characters and strong instances make mistakes.
Of course I'm a One Piece stan, that's not an insult lmao And I also know when to criticize Oda, and yes, Wano was amazing. :)
Yup
This wouldn't have been too much. Nika is indeed more than a name, but its only the SURFACE of the revelation. Revealing clues or putting more plantings than there is wouldn't lead to readers understanding very well what the nature of the fruit is. Oda didn't take that risk, that's why he put so little time between Nika's planting and the revelation.
Because again, the reveal of the name and what it symbolically entails is just the surface of the revelation, Oda already did enough plantings to create a good revelation like I showed with the transformations and the actions of Luffy.
Author must be really careful not to give to much. Especially when you want people to be incredibly surprised.
Indeed, only when he adds things to his lore Oda must be taken seriously. Comments like "this is just a simple story" shouldn't be taken seriously looking at the reality of the story itself.
We should not care when Oda has an idea, unless you want to create an analysis about his writing process.
The job of an author is to link his future work with his past work and his past work with his future work. Connecting thing retroactively (even tho its most likely not true in that case) is not something that is bad, its something that is recommended.
You didn't watch close enough
Oda is not taking you for a moron, he is thinking that you are able to decifer that by yourself.
We know what this awakening does because of the gourosai, the awekening seems to be something that can happen unconsciously and we already know that Luffy can do thing unconciously (Luffy being dead or alive is still not sure)
Oda planted that in the beginning of the arc
Charming
You mean after timeskip that Oda started trying to make gomu gomu not rubber paramecia anymore or that it was some special paramecia?
Oh Kaido...who was in Wano where Oda retconned manga stuff :
Lol
You know how he rolls
Don't lie to yourself.
Wano is Oda's biggest flop
Oh Kaido...who was in Wano where Oda retconned manga stuff :
- BOaT being Ryuo...thus creating many questions like " why prets zoro couldn't cut other stuff or hurt logias then"
- Tekkai being CoA
- Oden forced into the story (like really forced into the plots)
- Kaido main reason of invading wano seemed to be getting infod about laughable and poneglyphs 20 years ago but then what we got is him being in wabo 28 years ago
- Gomu Gomu being Nika Nika all of a sudden
- Etc...
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I cant wait till years from now where Oda reveals he came up with G5 last minute 
You know how he rolls
- Regretting making WCI last longer than planned
- Admitting he came up with warlords and SNs to make OP longer,
- Admitting that he addds or modify plots and plans when fans predict them
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Don't lie to yourself.
Wano is Oda's biggest flop
how convenient that WG and people only realised this now when Luffy loses to Kaido and needs a new power up to winWhat the f are those BS affirmations ? There is no retcon here.
No, its the pinnacle of One Piece.
Still not deminishing the greatness of the arc.
Making One Piece a lot better because of that.
Making One Piece even less predictible than it is.. good stuff then.
Highly unlikely, everything in Luffy's transformations and the way Luffy act during his fight lead to the potential reveal of Nika.
Nop, its an amazing arc.
Nop again Whole cake is one of the best written arc in One Piece.
They were hint, you are just denying their existence mate. (Hints about the capacity of the fruit, the fruit being Nika wasn't needed to be hint, if it was there would not have be a revelation)
He already did, just read
A good theorized should be able to predict gear 5 on Enies Lobby.
No, its the pinnacle of One Piece.
Still not deminishing the greatness of the arc.
Making One Piece a lot better because of that.
Making One Piece even less predictible than it is.. good stuff then.
Highly unlikely, everything in Luffy's transformations and the way Luffy act during his fight lead to the potential reveal of Nika.
Nop, its an amazing arc.
Nop again Whole cake is one of the best written arc in One Piece.
They were hint, you are just denying their existence mate. (Hints about the capacity of the fruit, the fruit being Nika wasn't needed to be hint, if it was there would not have be a revelation)
He already did, just read
A good theorized should be able to predict gear 5 on Enies Lobby.