Current Events Supernovas have not Luffy Level in this fight (Vs Kaido and Big Mom)
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1. Big Mom warned Kaido to take it seriously, he wasn't scared- he wasn't even going to move without prompting.
2. Dodging a slash to the neck doesn't make you "scared". Was WB scared of Ace when he prevented his knife sneak attack in his sleep?
3.Kaido's eyes were bulging with veins- which they weren't against Zoro's enma slash, when he got blitzed without time to evade by Kong gattling.
4.Kaido has survived the finishing attack of someone with MASTERY over Enma, it left him with scars, but don't act like this one shot would have killed him, it would have done significant damage, but there is no need to overhype it until we see what happens when/if it hits.
5.Kaido was hallucinating Oden,Shanks,Roger,WB and his own fucking captain ROCKS after getting slammed by red roc, I don't see Kaido having any feelings with regards to Zoro on that level at all.
2. Dodging a slash to the neck doesn't make you "scared". Was WB scared of Ace when he prevented his knife sneak attack in his sleep?
3.Kaido's eyes were bulging with veins- which they weren't against Zoro's enma slash, when he got blitzed without time to evade by Kong gattling.
4.Kaido has survived the finishing attack of someone with MASTERY over Enma, it left him with scars, but don't act like this one shot would have killed him, it would have done significant damage, but there is no need to overhype it until we see what happens when/if it hits.
5.Kaido was hallucinating Oden,Shanks,Roger,WB and his own fucking captain ROCKS after getting slammed by red roc, I don't see Kaido having any feelings with regards to Zoro on that level at all.
He wasn't going to dodge until he was told to. We are getting into circular argument territory here.
Points 1 and 2 are clear explanations of my point of view around why it was dodged, point 4 dehypes the attack to something that would seriously injure Kaido but not kill him as some extremists claim.
Be reasonable, accept the above or "Find a panel of that attack killing kaido."
Points 1 and 2 are clear explanations of my point of view around why it was dodged, point 4 dehypes the attack to something that would seriously injure Kaido but not kill him as some extremists claim.
Be reasonable, accept the above or "Find a panel of that attack killing kaido."
Because it would seriously injure Kaido, and it was slow enough to both react to, warn, and then dodge.
I have never said it wouldn't seriously injure Kaido.
Where did Big Mom say it would kill him?
Where is the panel of it killing him?
We have on panel evidence of Oden, a MASTER of Enma (which Zoro hasn't reached yet) not killing Kaido with a full power nittoryu Enma strike, it did a lot of damage, just as this strike would have done, but it didn't kill or even fully incapacitate Kaido, so to claim Zoro's would have needs more evidence in my honest opinion.
I have never said it wouldn't seriously injure Kaido.
Where did Big Mom say it would kill him?
Where is the panel of it killing him?
We have on panel evidence of Oden, a MASTER of Enma (which Zoro hasn't reached yet) not killing Kaido with a full power nittoryu Enma strike, it did a lot of damage, just as this strike would have done, but it didn't kill or even fully incapacitate Kaido, so to claim Zoro's would have needs more evidence in my honest opinion.
1.Was WB "scared" of Ace's sneak attack? Would it have seriously injured him to get stabbed in the neck while sleeping at full force?
2.Did Kaido move to dodge by himself out of fear or was he planning on countering it until Big Mom told him to dodge?
3.Was Zoro "scared" of Kaido's wind slash by parrying it rather than tanking it with no defense and getting significantly damaged?- No.
2.Did Kaido move to dodge by himself out of fear or was he planning on countering it until Big Mom told him to dodge?
3.Was Zoro "scared" of Kaido's wind slash by parrying it rather than tanking it with no defense and getting significantly damaged?- No.
I expect it to cave in the skull at the very least. It's not that I don't think Luffy is incapable of attacks with more DC than Hiryuu Kaen, it's that Hiryuu Kaen is at best Zoro's strongest Ittoryu technique. His most powerful Santoryu techniques (Nigori-Zake and 1080 Pound Cannon) should be considerably stronger, and his Ougi (Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai and Rokudo no Tsuji) should be even more powerful.
Zoro has attacks considerably more powerful than Hiryuu Kaen, but Luffy needs to stack Gear 3 with Boundman to match or exceed it.
Alternatively, I think Luffy can cave in or crush Onigashima's skull with his ultimate techniques. On the other hand, AI think ISDS can do to the entire island what Hiryuu Kaen did to a horn.
Zoro can't have a COC clash if he doesn't have COC.
Zoro doesn't need mid air mobility since he doesn't normally get airborne during fights. He only needed to go airborne to protect Luffy from Kaido's Boro Breath.
Zoro doesn't have aerial mobility, he couldn't have dodged even if he wanted to.
Zoro can probably oneshot any version of Luffy if he lands any of his higher end techniques. Landing such techniques on Luffy would be exceptionally difficult though.
His Iaijutsu is the lone exception (I doubt Luffy can readily dodge them).
Zoro has attacks considerably more powerful than Hiryuu Kaen, but Luffy needs to stack Gear 3 with Boundman to match or exceed it.
Alternatively, I think Luffy can cave in or crush Onigashima's skull with his ultimate techniques. On the other hand, AI think ISDS can do to the entire island what Hiryuu Kaen did to a horn.
Zoro can't have a COC clash if he doesn't have COC.
Zoro doesn't need mid air mobility since he doesn't normally get airborne during fights. He only needed to go airborne to protect Luffy from Kaido's Boro Breath.
Zoro doesn't have aerial mobility, he couldn't have dodged even if he wanted to.
Zoro can probably oneshot any version of Luffy if he lands any of his higher end techniques. Landing such techniques on Luffy would be exceptionally difficult though.
His Iaijutsu is the lone exception (I doubt Luffy can readily dodge them).
The sword isn't moving on its own but nothing points at Zoro being able to perform such slash without Enma's peculiarities, and there's even the possibilty that the slash he tried against Kaido isn't something he can freely spam since he was literally panting after it. At the end of the day, the fact is that both Kaido and Linlin have referred to the sword itself, to the point of Linlin advising Kaido to dodge because the sword, and not Zoro, is not normal.
