General & Others Switch Kidd with Franky
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Kidd only pushed BM out of wano and even then needed bombs help to do it. Kidd bros 
despite Law’s AP, he failed to take out BM. And the only person in wano with better AP than Law was Luffy, who was fighting Kaido.
The only way BM could have been defeated was by knocking her into bombs. Kid, the only one who could damage the yonko with raw force, was the only guy who could do this.
If you think Kid is ass because Law was stronger or more important, that’s fine. I think that’s fairly subjective.
My only point of contention is the idea that Kid is somehow replaceable or that any of the strong allies could do what he did. That is an outright misreading of the text, and nothing more than a cope headcanon.
Nobody could take out BM bar Luffy. Bombs were the only way she could lose. Law had the highest AP after Luffy and the fact he failed to take her out means anyone else would have failed.
Kid, who’s DF specialized in raw force, was the best one suited to forcing BM out of onigashima. That was literally his role in the story. Saying otherwise is like saying anyone could scar Kaido like Zoro did.
My only point of contention is the idea that Kid is somehow replaceable or that any of the strong allies could do what he did. That is an outright misreading of the text, and nothing more than a cope headcanon.
Nobody could take out BM bar Luffy. Bombs were the only way she could lose. Law had the highest AP after Luffy and the fact he failed to take her out means anyone else would have failed.
Kid, who’s DF specialized in raw force, was the best one suited to forcing BM out of onigashima. That was literally his role in the story. Saying otherwise is like saying anyone could scar Kaido like Zoro did.
I don't think Kidd is ass. He is solid YC1 level. If he masters the ability to magnetize people and have huge metal bars/structures collapse on them without getting caught , I will push him to YC1+.
Kidd can be replaced with zoro or yamato though. Zoro has more lethality and yamato is better balanced.
I mean I am not shitting on Kidd because he failed to K.O.ed BM. Simply that law felt far more impressive and relevant in causing BM's defeat. Even BM was highlighting law's attacks more.
I will not say the best. Zoro and yamato also could have done it and zoro would have damaged her bone on average.
Kidd can be replaced with zoro or yamato though. Zoro has more lethality and yamato is better balanced.
I mean I am not shitting on Kidd because he failed to K.O.ed BM. Simply that law felt far more impressive and relevant in causing BM's defeat. Even BM was highlighting law's attacks more.
I will not say the best. Zoro and yamato also could have done it and zoro would have damaged her bone on average.
Then why didn’t Oda just write the story that way? It’s like people are saying “Kid is a useless character because in my headcanons other people would have done a better job”.
Zoro’s attacks focus on cutting. Yamato focuses on club attacks and ice. Both solely damaged Kaido due to haki.
Kid and Kid alone focused on raw force. If the key to defeating BM was knocking her off onigashima and into bombs, people who use clubs/swords/adv haki are irrelevant. You need someone who can push BM into bombs, Kid was the guy.
Zoro’s attacks focus on cutting. Yamato focuses on club attacks and ice. Both solely damaged Kaido due to haki.
Kid and Kid alone focused on raw force. If the key to defeating BM was knocking her off onigashima and into bombs, people who use clubs/swords/adv haki are irrelevant. You need someone who can push BM into bombs, Kid was the guy.
Kidd in general was more important character than yamato. Zoro always defeats no.2 of an organisation which was King. Thats why.
Eh how good Damned punk's AP is impossible to say. So you saying what makes Kidd special is that he has an continuous beam attack which helped law push BM out of wano? Very very situational.
Eh how good Damned punk's AP is impossible to say. So you saying what makes Kidd special is that he has an continuous beam attack which helped law push BM out of wano? Very very situational.
Honestly it’s not even a matter of powerscaling as much as it is matchups. Swords/clubs can’t push BM off onigashima, magnetism can.
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Usually when characters get big moments, this is how it is. They get whatever moment as a highlight of the skills that makes them special.
Zoro is a CoA specialist. Holding back hakai was something only he could do. He’s also a master swordsman, so scarring Kaido was something only he could do.
1v1ing Kaido was something only Luffy could do
Baking the cake in WCI was something only Sanji could do
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Usually when characters get big moments, this is how it is. They get whatever moment as a highlight of the skills that makes them special.
Zoro is a CoA specialist. Holding back hakai was something only he could do. He’s also a master swordsman, so scarring Kaido was something only he could do.
1v1ing Kaido was something only Luffy could do
Baking the cake in WCI was something only Sanji could do
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Bruh zoro's high AP will work on most. Kidd pushing BM who just withstood puncture wille is simply unquantifiable. Shock wille was breaking her bones and now imagine an attack which is at least 4x shock wille. BM was heavily injured and only then kidd pushed her. She was even smiling in between when taking his attacks.
Franky's reaction after beating Kid high-diff despite his fruit hard countering him:
Kid ain't beating Franky even with his match up advantage. I am dead serious.
Kids biggest claim to fame is his status as a semi-reliable punching bag with good endurance. But that guy ain't tanking even one laser from Franky. After Kid tanks a couple of strong rights and Franky uses a radical beam? Its lights out for Kid and means a massive upgrade for Franky if he somehow gets his hand on kids fruit.
If Franky had Kids fruit? He would be INSTANTLY catapulted to Top 10 characters alive pretty much the second he gets it. No fruit has ever been wasted as much as the Magnetism fruit was on Kid. The spirit/essence in the fruit would probably throw the equivalent of a party over getting rid of Kid and being placed in a goated match up like Franky instead.
As for the thread yeah switch Franky and Kid and Law might legit walk away from this fight clean enough to help Luffy with Kaido.
Kid ain't beating Franky even with his match up advantage. I am dead serious.
Kids biggest claim to fame is his status as a semi-reliable punching bag with good endurance. But that guy ain't tanking even one laser from Franky. After Kid tanks a couple of strong rights and Franky uses a radical beam? Its lights out for Kid and means a massive upgrade for Franky if he somehow gets his hand on kids fruit.
If Franky had Kids fruit? He would be INSTANTLY catapulted to Top 10 characters alive pretty much the second he gets it. No fruit has ever been wasted as much as the Magnetism fruit was on Kid. The spirit/essence in the fruit would probably throw the equivalent of a party over getting rid of Kid and being placed in a goated match up like Franky instead.
As for the thread yeah switch Franky and Kid and Law might legit walk away from this fight clean enough to help Luffy with Kaido.
It doesn’t matter
Kid’s DF is meant for pushing heavy things. That’s literally all he does.
Zoro’s AP can be as high as y’all say it is. Two facts remain:
Again if Kid can be replaced by Zoro, why didn’t Oda just write it that way? Have King fall to Marco or something instead.
This whole idea of Kid being replaceable literally has zero standing in the manga and exists only in the headcanons of people who think Kid is so weak that just because he did something , anyone can.
Kid’s DF is meant for pushing heavy things. That’s literally all he does.
Zoro’s AP can be as high as y’all say it is. Two facts remain:
- Zoro’s attacks focus on cutting, not pushing
- Nothing suggests Zoro can kill Big Mom. Even with help
Again if Kid can be replaced by Zoro, why didn’t Oda just write it that way? Have King fall to Marco or something instead.
This whole idea of Kid being replaceable literally has zero standing in the manga and exists only in the headcanons of people who think Kid is so weak that just because he did something , anyone can.
I’m not talking about Kid’s power level
I’m just explaining why it was he, and not Zoro, Yamato, Marco, etc. that fought BM with Law.
the only way to beat her was by pushing her off onigashima. The magnet fruit was necessary to accomplish this.
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But since you asked, the ability to push around opponents is a genuine strength in battle.
If you knock a DF user into the ocean, they drown. This is a legitimate strategy Luffy tried with Kizaru and Saturn.
Obviously Kid can’t beat a top tier like that, but portrayal and feats suggest he could probably beat King or Marco this way.
I’m just explaining why it was he, and not Zoro, Yamato, Marco, etc. that fought BM with Law.
the only way to beat her was by pushing her off onigashima. The magnet fruit was necessary to accomplish this.
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But since you asked, the ability to push around opponents is a genuine strength in battle.
If you knock a DF user into the ocean, they drown. This is a legitimate strategy Luffy tried with Kizaru and Saturn.
Obviously Kid can’t beat a top tier like that, but portrayal and feats suggest he could probably beat King or Marco this way.
He didn't used magnetism directly but a laser like beam attack to push BM over. You think zoro or yamato can't create attacks which can not do the same? Yamato's white snake attack almost topple Kaido and made him fall. And that was yamato in base. Zoro has pound attacks which generate good force and will be stronger as they can be coated with adv coc.