Powers & Abilities Sword skill (without haki) is a myth: Haki makes a master swordsman

[Julius]

Why does Zoro uses three swords then?

Why did Mihawk didn't wanted to fight Shanks when he lost an arm 13 years ago? If all that matters is Haki, someone could use a kitchen knife to fight anyone, swordsman or not.



Haki is important to anyone in the New World, swordsman are just dudes who use Haki with sharp weapons. Everything else they can't do with Haki that increases the power of their attacks (CoA and CoC) will end up falling in sword skills, defensive Haki such as CoO and quality of the blade (something we can barely talk about because all we know is there are cursed blades, which are the best ones crafted, and black blades, that are still a mystery).

Dudes think a swordsman can literally give up on being a swordsman and he will still be just as strong because all that matters is Haki

It's the same as saying that if you give a sword to someone strong enough then this guy is top 5 swordsmen of all time by default

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

But AdCoC is not in the Sword it's around the Swords which is why Zoro does not have it..

What? This makes no sense lol

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Bullshit. Swordsmanship is an extension of physical prowess and fighting style. Already debunked your silly point. Fighting style alone will never win fights on the verse. Haki and physical prowess are needed on top of ones fighting style

Hypocrisy at its finest. We're done here.

 

[Rootbeer]

What? This makes no sense lol

lf it was on the Sword there would not be an invisible field around it.. lf it was on the Sword it would
like hardening on a Sword..

 

[Guymieux]

Hypocrisy at its finest. We're done here.

We are literally watching the next Wss on his road to the top , all he’s improved is his power and haki I don’t understand where we are losing you

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lf it was on the Sword there would not be an invisible field around it.. lf it was on the Sword it would
like hardening on a Sword..

Stop talking nonsense . Luffy, kaido zoro and Yamato have made contact with opponents while using Coc. Luffys fist went through kaidos face and he remarked that he was coated with Coc .

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

lf it was on the Sword there would not be an invisible field around it.. lf it was on the Sword it would
like hardening on a Sword..

Again this is cap. Especially since that same forcefield was used to separate kings from takongs zoros swords a second time when he activated coC.

 

[zzShinichi]

Haki>>>>>>>all but Sword skill doesn't matter.

Haki >>>>>>>>> all but physicality matters.

You can't have it both ways. She either demolishes him because she has Shanks level of Haki, or Zoro demolishes her because she severely lacks in all other categories, including Sword Skills.

If Tashigi has Shanks level of haki, which boosts your physical stats, she would demolish Zoro with a swing no matter how good Zoro's Swordstyle is

Brook and Ryuma has the same swordstyle Ryuma demolishes Brook through sheer force.

 

[Rootbeer]

Again this is cap. Especially since that same forcefield was used to separate kings from takongs zoros swords a second time when he activated coC.

Zoro and king were already in contact before they got separated.. lt does not work..
Zoro was thrown away like a baseball..

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

If Tashigi has Shanks level of haki, which boosts your physical stats, she would demolish Zoro with a swing no matter how good Zoro's Swordstyle is

Brook and Ryuma has the same swordstyle Ryuma demolishes Brook through sheer force.

Exactly this is why the argument that king of lighting and these idiots have about haki and swordsmanship is stupid.

All top tier swordsmans have top tier haki hence why it was only swordsman that trained Luffy in haki

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Zoro and king were already in contact before they got separated.. lt does not work..
Zoro was thrown away like a baseball..

Actually it works better since that forces the idea that an invisible forcefield pushed king hence his reaction lol

 

[Guymieux]

Zoro and king were already in contact before they got separated.. lt does not work..
Zoro was thrown away like a baseball..

Zoro was not over powered by king one e he unlocked adv Coc . Stop making things up after the power king was done for . You’re literally denying manga facts

 

[Rootbeer]

Zoro was not over powered by king one e he unlocked adv Coc . Stop making things up after the power king was done for . You’re literally denying manga facts

He was in that instance because Zoro was already in mid air from dodging imperial Dragon previously..

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

He was in that instance because Zoro was already in mid air from dodging imperial Dragon previously..

Wow amazing how king didn't even push Zoro and was actively trying to take his sword while his sword was flamed on lol.

 

[Rootbeer]

Wow amazing how king didn't even push Zoro and was actively trying to take his sword while his sword was flamed on lol.

He was not trying to push Zoro but came down flying at him while Zoro was hanging in mid air..

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

He was not trying to push Zoro but came down flying at him while Zoro was hanging in mid air..

With further proves my point since he was trying to take zoros blade mid air. His sword was trying to take zoros sword and Zoro using not one move or gesture pushed king back using pure advanced coC

 

[Guymieux]

He was not trying to push Zoro but came down flying at him while Zoro was hanging in mid air..

Where do you see zoro getting pushed back? Don’t you see his coc everywhere ? Acting just like those barriers you spend all day here rambling about? I’m so confused man

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

If all that matters is Haki, someone could use a kitchen knife to fight anyone, swordsman or not.

They will be pretty strong with a kitchen knife too, as shown by Zoro when he cut a house with kitchen knife. Without haki, they will be like fodders for new world. What does that tell you?

. Everything else they can't do with Haki that increases the power of their attacks (CoA and CoC) will end up falling in sword skills

Enlighten us smartass, what are those things swordsmen "cant do with haki" that actually affects the outcome of a fight in the new world?

Dudes think a swordsman can literally give up on being a swordsman and he will still be just as strong because all that matters is Haki

They wont be just as strong, but they will retain 90% of their strength. Give up haki, they will retain like 5-10% of their strength.

It's the same as saying that if you give a sword to someone strong enough then this guy is top 5 swordsmen of all time by default

Not by default because they need to at least know the basic sword use, i.e. cutting and slashing. If Luffy learns the basics of sword (not any advanced skill), he automatically becomes a top 10 swordsmen in the verse. Tashigi can replicate Mihawk's swordskill, but she is still a fodder.

 

[Rootbeer]

With further proves my point since he was trying to take zoros blade mid air. His sword was trying to take zoros sword and Zoro using not one move or gesture pushed king back using pure advanced coC

How was he trying to take Zoro's Blade?.. By Swinging right which is where Zoro got sent flying.. There was no AdCoC involved.. lol

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

How was he trying to take Zoro's Blade?.. By Swinging right which is where Zoro got sent flying.. There was no AdCoC involved.. lol

I see you lack the ability to read. Zoro stated in the exact scene that king was actively trying to take his swords. We see his swords in the edges of kings blade which he uses to snatch blades. So again your argument was mute. You lost

 

[Guymieux]

How was he trying to take Zoro's Blade?.. By Swinging right which is where Zoro got sent flying.. There was no AdCoC involved.. lol

You see him swing and make contact with zoro . Zoro doesn’t get pushed back at all . Then king activated his swords mechanism zoro tells him he won’t allow it and then you see Coc trails and separation . That’s obviously zoros adv Coc

 

[Julius]

They will be pretty strong with a kitchen knife too, as shown by Zoro when he cut a house with kitchen knife. Without haki, they will be like fodders for new world. What does that tell you?


Enlighten us smartass, what are those things swordsmen "cant do with haki" that actually affects the outcome of a fight in the new world?


They wont be just as strong, but they will retain 90% of their strength. Give up haki, they will retain like 5-10% of their strength.


Not by default because they need to at least know the basic sword use, i.e. cutting and slashing. If Luffy learns the basics of sword (not any advanced skill), he automatically becomes a top 10 swordsmen in the verse. Tashigi can replicate Mihawk's swordskill, but she is still a fodder.

Easier to accept this is the most vague and pointless stuff Oda has ever introduced in the manga lol