Powers & Abilities Swordsman and haki user two different things.

[Rootbeer]

I remember in the nakama thread using all Caps locks saying that yamato was 100% joining.

Now he's been a broken record saying the same "Zoro adv CoC passed out against king" argument while recycling the same goku laugh emoji.

Hopefully he gets better

Yamato not joining was due to Oda's big restructuration..

 

[Adamxero]

I remember in the nakama thread using all Caps locks saying that yamato was 100% joining.

Now he's been a broken record saying the same "Zoro adv CoC passed out against king" argument while recycling the same goku laugh emoji.

Hopefully he gets better

Lmao did the little bit of trolling at the time make you butt hurt



Get a grip.

Caps locking was for fun to wind other people up

 

[zzShinichi]

It means I took an L on judging what makes a Strawhat which is fair I take it and will no longer contribute to any Next Strawhats discussion.

You clowns though even after ZKK failed which was a theory ALL about powerscaling still continue to try push arguments like Zoro haki > Luffy haki lmao when all of Luffy's haki feats shit on Zoro's



If you had any respect you and the rest of the ZKK tard cult should never contribute to power scaling arguments ever again

Who cares? One L doesn't make our future opinion and facts invalid. We accept our L and move on. YOu accept your L and move on. What's the difference between either of us?

 

[Adamxero]

Who cares? One L doesn't make our future opinion and facts invalid. We accept our L and move on. YOu accept your L and move on. What's the difference between either of us?

The difference is you and the cult argue the same thing each time but just trying use different headcanons and agendas.

Zoro will kill Kaido meaning Zoro stronger than Luffy.

Now it's Zoro has better haki than Luffy.

My L has nothing to do with Zoro or Luffy.

You guys until the end of the manga will argue the same thing over and over and take L after L and still have the gall to wake up and try again to push your own 2 piece headcanon

 

[BuggyDGod]

Black Blades are probably not useful to CoC masters..

You don't imbue every blow with COC so of course its still extremely useful.
Only a few clashes out of many hundreds or thousands is imbued with COC. Its not a spammable thing.

 

[Rootbeer]

You don't imbue every blow with COC so of course its still extremely useful.
Only a few clashes out of many hundreds or thousands is imbued with COC. Its not a spammable thing.

lt's spammable in the battle of kaido and Luffy.. Using CoC imbued sword is a restricting fighting style more than anything..

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

The difference is you and the cult argue the same thing each time but just trying use different headcanons and agendas.

Zoro will kill Kaido meaning Zoro stronger than Luffy.

Now it's Zoro has better haki than Luffy.

My L has nothing to do with Zoro or Luffy.

You guys until the end of the manga will argue the same thing over and over and take L after L and still have the gall to wake up and try again to push your own 2 piece headcanon

ZKK wasn't about Luffy being stronger than Luffy.

 

[Mohammad211]

Can Zoro split the sky?

You need 2 AdCoC user for it its not something that anyone alone can do
if he clash with another AdCoC user we will see he can or can't

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

Yes it does. That's like saying after alabasta mihawk can't cut steel.

What? How does that example even make sense? CoA haki is not the same as CoC.

Zoros coc was manifested properly after declaring his kingly ambition to become wss
Something mihawk has done

Nope. That logic does not prove that Mihawk has it.

Haki is involved
Haki turns swords black temporarily
Haki will make swords black permanently

Sure, but how does haki turn the sword black? If it were that simple, Zoro and many other swordsman would have black blades.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Lanji with no haki is on par with Zoro and his adCoA and AdCoC
The master swordsman Shanks is stronger than the actual strongest swordsman Mihawk because of haki.
This is the candy powerscaling.
Never waste your time with a candy that says that Lanji is near Zoro's level.

 

[Nerve74]

What kinda mental gymnatics is this lmao

As long as Shanks is fighting with a sword, Mihawk is winning against him. Now it's up to you if you think Shanks is a stronger martial artist than a swordsman.

This kind.

 

[Ryuarashi]

Kaido: Roger brought the World to his knees with his Swordsmanship

 

[Nerve74]

Which fandom wins the copium contest ?

Shanks fans or Lanji fans?

Shanks fans.No doubt.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

And it's silly if S fans were clever supporting mihawk plays good for them in the future.

It's because they know Sanji will never be more than a mid diff fight for Shanks(if even that) but for Zoro-Sanji to always be at no easier than very-high diff would require EoS Sanji = Shanks

 

[Shanal]

Oden's sword style being considered the strongest and VIVRECARD confirming.

Yes, not Oden himself or even his sword skills or swordsmanship. Just a particular style that even his Scabbards wield.

Love how when Scabbards attacked Kaido, first thing he thought was "Their Ryou is same as Oden?!" and not skills, though lmao.

Swordsman is about haki as much as it is about anything else. Black Blade is literally CoA. Zoro is a ACoC user. List goes on.

 

[Artem]

Oda didn't give him an opponent who could use it because Zoro wasn't ready for it.

Zoro has weaker ACOC feats that Yamato lmao.

Akok zoro> akok Luffy. Luffy has almost harmless punches. That is why Kaido was killed by magma, and Ashura Zoro in damage > KKG acoc

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Zoro passed out using AdvCoC on King.

Yamato hit both Kaido and an Admiral with AdvCoC 2 characters both with higher portrayal than King BY FAR.

Did you not take a big enough L with ZKK or do you just enjoy punishment?



Also you use the argument use manga facts and your first argument is well give Zoro an opponent that can use ACoC that is the definition of headcanon you hypocrite

Zoro lost consciousness from two hakai + two thunderclaps + a fight with King and Enma. Zoro inflicted a scar that>>>>>Any yamato attack. Call on the gods. Luffy is nothing without the fruit of GOD. 5 defeats in one arch and a vanshot from a thunderclap.

 

[TheSufferingGob]

why is this still an argument Zoro's King of Hell style is only possible through CoC and a black blade is the rarest haki feat in the verse why is there any seperation. Literally the end goal for a Swordsmans blades is to perminently be coated in haki or are black blades black because of how swordsman they are?

 

[Aknolagon]

Being a swordsman and haki user are two different things, that of course can mix up.

Every swordsman use haki and every haki user can use a sword.
The difference? You have to see which Is the auxiliary things, the sword or the haki.

Zoro Is a swordsman and an haki user, and he uses his haki to power-up and boost up his swordsmaship.
Just like Oden, which sword style was known as the strongest.

<< What he himself called the (strongest) sword style was not a boast, it was the only one that deeply wounded Kaido! >>
VIVRECARD.

While others, like Roger, use mainly haki and their sword as a support.

As you can see even though Oden had the strongest sword style, Roger had the upper hand and could win against him.

Now, Shanks.
Shanks Is known as a top class swordsman, rivaling Mihawk in this regard, with Mihawk having the upper hand an swordsmaship surpassing that of Red Hair.

The question Is: Is Shanks a swordsman? Yup, a Skilled top class swordsman #2 currently and..
An haki user.

Yup, the two things can converge but are threat as two separate things.

But how can you know this? By what's hyped about a character, what Is emphasized about the character? His swordsmaship or his haki?
Oden's swordsmaship Is what was hyped about him, being considered the strongest style.
Roger's haki Is what was hyped about him, same goes for Shanks, even though he's a top class swordsman what Is hyped about him Is always haki, which Is his forte.

Just like Roger:

While Mihawk, Just like Oden Is emphasized for his swordsmaship.

Shanks has inferior swordsmaship to Mihawk, but Shanks's forte Is his haki since It Is the main thing emphasized about him even though swordsmaship comes as the 2nd thing emphasized about him being top class level behind Mihawk.

Edit:
Not even a proof imo but interesting:
If you want you can even use the video game Pirate Warriors 4 which explains my point even though It's not Canon, but that's the idea.

It says that Shanks Is a Skilled swordsman and an haki user.

And It says that Mihawk stands above all swordsmen. (Have to find a good quality images, I'll edit later on)

Again Mihawk stands above as swordsman and swordsmaship wise, but Shanks even though he's considered a top and Skilled swordsman he's considered a swordsman AND an haki user and what Is emphasized about him, his forte, Is his haki.

So could you please tell us if zoro is a swordsman or a hakiman ? Because seems like to me zoro is another shanks since he uses all his haki and become only stronger

 

[mly90]

No wonder Vista is stronger than Mihawk. Vista is a Hakiman

Luffy is df user who is a brawler yet we see multiple times how his haki is highlighted, strange why shanks is supposedly the only one to play by different rules separating his haki from swordsmanship. When for all other characters haki is part of whatever fighting style they have

Zoro also seems to have become hakiman for some reason because he talks about importance of having strong haki as swordsman

 

[Captain Luffy]

According to zoroboys swordskill is haki