Powers & Abilities Swordsman and haki user two different things.
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(Haki has been showcased as energy while Skill is how you use that energy.)
Swordskill is how much a person is talented enough to draw his haki into his swords without wasting any amounts.
In zoro case, his haki is limited that is why his arm gets sucked out everytime he uses.
For ex- in naruto take shadow clone jutsu, naruto uses more chakra to make a shadow clone while others do it better way but still nobody could touch him in this jutsu becoz he got more chakra reserves than others.
Same way unless, mihawk showcase atleast the same haki feat as shanks, this discussion is not over.
Swordskill is how much a person is talented enough to draw his haki into his swords without wasting any amounts.
In zoro case, his haki is limited that is why his arm gets sucked out everytime he uses.
For ex- in naruto take shadow clone jutsu, naruto uses more chakra to make a shadow clone while others do it better way but still nobody could touch him in this jutsu becoz he got more chakra reserves than others.
Same way unless, mihawk showcase atleast the same haki feat as shanks, this discussion is not over.
So what about Luffy who is hakiless after 10min ? Limited haki ?
Zoro being sucked off doesn't mean he has limit but enma sucks it all, like G4 who uses a huge amount.
why oda never said shanks stronger in haki than Mihawk ?
We have a direct proof from manga that mihawk > shanks.
Mihawk > shanks in this chapter, Mihawk is the WSS when Shanks is a Master Swordsman. And Zoro literally using haki to defeat King (means skill).
So as long you don't have any others proof that shanks has others fighting style, mihawk is stronger. Not hard to accept.
Zoro being sucked off doesn't mean he has limit but enma sucks it all, like G4 who uses a huge amount.
why oda never said shanks stronger in haki than Mihawk ?
We have a direct proof from manga that mihawk > shanks.
Mihawk > shanks in this chapter, Mihawk is the WSS when Shanks is a Master Swordsman. And Zoro literally using haki to defeat King (means skill).
So as long you don't have any others proof that shanks has others fighting style, mihawk is stronger. Not hard to accept.
Lanji with no haki is on par with Zoro and his adCoA and AdCoC
The master swordsman Shanks is stronger than the actual strongest swordsman Mihawk because of haki.
This is the candy powerscaling.
Never waste your time with a candy that says that Lanji is near Zoro's level.
The master swordsman Shanks is stronger than the actual strongest swordsman Mihawk because of haki.
This is the candy powerscaling.
Never waste your time with a candy that says that Lanji is near Zoro's level.
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Omori Karyudon (King Fire sword )
Shanks Fire Sword in Film Red
Fox Fire
Ikkoku
Ryou
Oden Nitoryu
En Ou Style
Dragon style
These are all swordsmanship skills that uses either CoA or AdvCoC to coat their swords
The issue with them, they literally think haki is a fighting style lmao.
It's either swordsman, brawler, art martial, df user. What shanks gonna do without his sword and not being a brawler ? Slap people with his dick coated with adv.coc or adv.coa, the dickman
It's either swordsman, brawler, art martial, df user. What shanks gonna do without his sword and not being a brawler ? Slap people with his dick coated with adv.coc or adv.coa, the dickman
Any skills that affect their sword is swordsmanship
This topic has no sense of existence
Even if you have a superior haki still you use it in the sword and therefore it falls under sword art
Zoro even uses the coc
So the arguments that this topic is offering are wrong
Shanks may also have a better haki (he uses it in the sword anyway) but overall in a duel he loses with or without haki
By now the few arguments in favor of shanks have fallen away, yonko>shichibukai no longer exists thanks to 1058
Nice how they justify with shanks that he was not interested in mihawk's title when in fact mihawk was the one not interested in shanka's title :)
But still I think the only sensible argument shanks fans can make is to say that shanks has other fighting skills/style besides sword
But at the moment there is no evidence for that so facts>supposition
Even if you have a superior haki still you use it in the sword and therefore it falls under sword art
Zoro even uses the coc
So the arguments that this topic is offering are wrong
Shanks may also have a better haki (he uses it in the sword anyway) but overall in a duel he loses with or without haki
By now the few arguments in favor of shanks have fallen away, yonko>shichibukai no longer exists thanks to 1058
Nice how they justify with shanks that he was not interested in mihawk's title when in fact mihawk was the one not interested in shanka's title :)
But still I think the only sensible argument shanks fans can make is to say that shanks has other fighting skills/style besides sword
But at the moment there is no evidence for that so facts>supposition
What we know so far is that Mihawk is the Worlds Strongest Swordsman. What this chapter confirmed when they hyped Mihawk for having better "skills" than Shanks is the fact that Shanks is s swordsman. So as a swordsman, Shanks should be weaker than the WSSM. Mihawk is both more skilled and powerful than Shanks. That's about as obvious as it can get.
Being a swordsman and haki user are two different things, that of course can mix up.
Every swordsman use haki and every haki user can use a sword.
The difference? You have to see which Is the auxiliary things, the sword or the haki.
Zoro Is a swordsman and an haki user, and he uses his haki to power-up and boost up his swordsmaship.
Just like Oden, which sword style was known as the strongest.
<< What he himself called the (strongest) sword style was not a boast, it was the only one that deeply wounded Kaido! >>
VIVRECARD.
While others, like Roger, use mainly haki and their sword as a support.
As you can see even though Oden had the strongest sword style, Roger had the upper hand and could win against him.
Now, Shanks.
Shanks Is known as a top class swordsman, rivaling Mihawk in this regard, with Mihawk having the upper hand an swordsmaship surpassing that of Red Hair.
The question Is: Is Shanks a swordsman? Yup, a Skilled top class swordsman #2 currently and..
An haki user.
Yup, the two things can converge but are threat as two separate things.
But how can you know this? By what's hyped about a character, what Is emphasized about the character? His swordsmaship or his haki?
Oden's swordsmaship Is what was hyped about him, being considered the strongest style.
Roger's haki Is what was hyped about him, same goes for Shanks, even though he's a top class swordsman what Is hyped about him Is always haki, which Is his forte.
Just like Roger:
While Mihawk, Just like Oden Is emphasized for his swordsmaship.
Shanks has inferior swordsmaship to Mihawk, but Shanks's forte Is his haki since It Is the main thing emphasized about him even though swordsmaship comes as the 2nd thing emphasized about him being top class level behind Mihawk.
Edit:
Not even a proof imo but interesting:
If you want you can even use the video game Pirate Warriors 4 which explains my point even though It's not Canon, but that's the idea.
It says that Shanks Is a Skilled swordsman and an haki user.
And It says that Mihawk stands above all swordsmen. (Have to find a good quality images, I'll edit later on)
Again Mihawk stands above as swordsman and swordsmaship wise, but Shanks even though he's considered a top and Skilled swordsman he's considered a swordsman AND an haki user and what Is emphasized about him, his forte, Is his haki.
Every swordsman use haki and every haki user can use a sword.
The difference? You have to see which Is the auxiliary things, the sword or the haki.
Zoro Is a swordsman and an haki user, and he uses his haki to power-up and boost up his swordsmaship.
Just like Oden, which sword style was known as the strongest.
<< What he himself called the (strongest) sword style was not a boast, it was the only one that deeply wounded Kaido! >>
VIVRECARD.
While others, like Roger, use mainly haki and their sword as a support.
As you can see even though Oden had the strongest sword style, Roger had the upper hand and could win against him.
Now, Shanks.
Shanks Is known as a top class swordsman, rivaling Mihawk in this regard, with Mihawk having the upper hand an swordsmaship surpassing that of Red Hair.
The question Is: Is Shanks a swordsman? Yup, a Skilled top class swordsman #2 currently and..
An haki user.
Yup, the two things can converge but are threat as two separate things.
But how can you know this? By what's hyped about a character, what Is emphasized about the character? His swordsmaship or his haki?
Oden's swordsmaship Is what was hyped about him, being considered the strongest style.
Roger's haki Is what was hyped about him, same goes for Shanks, even though he's a top class swordsman what Is hyped about him Is always haki, which Is his forte.
Just like Roger:
While Mihawk, Just like Oden Is emphasized for his swordsmaship.
Shanks has inferior swordsmaship to Mihawk, but Shanks's forte Is his haki since It Is the main thing emphasized about him even though swordsmaship comes as the 2nd thing emphasized about him being top class level behind Mihawk.
Edit:
Not even a proof imo but interesting:
If you want you can even use the video game Pirate Warriors 4 which explains my point even though It's not Canon, but that's the idea.
It says that Shanks Is a Skilled swordsman and an haki user.
And It says that Mihawk stands above all swordsmen. (Have to find a good quality images, I'll edit later on)
Again Mihawk stands above as swordsman and swordsmaship wise, but Shanks even though he's considered a top and Skilled swordsman he's considered a swordsman AND an haki user and what Is emphasized about him, his forte, Is his haki.
1. Shanks is not known for having better haki than miahwk else he would have had that in his title.
2. All individuals that trained luffy in haki were swordsman
3. Wano a land of swordsman are known for their usage of ryou (haki)
4. All top tier swordsman have top tier haki
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