Questions & Mysteries Teach's leadership ability or Luffy's leadership ability?

[Erkan12]

Luffy's power of friendship. Law tells him Luffy is wrong.

Vs.

Teach's power of being professional pirates:

When even Teach's own crew was asking him ''are you crazy'', Teach didn't even hesitate to ask Aokiji, former Marine Admiral to join his Pirate Crew.

Lets not forget Oda said except for SH pirates, he would like to join BB pirates if he was strong as well for a reason.

BB's leadership abilities can't be denied, not only he made the strongest and most violent level 6 prisoners, and Shiryu, (former head jailor of Impel Down) join as his crewmates, he even made a former Marine Admiral join his Pirate crew as well.

Can Luffy match with Teach's leadership abilities?

 

[Infitima]

Luffy's power of friendship. Law tells him Luffy is wrong.

Vs.

Teach's power of being professional pirates:

When even Teach's own crew was asking him ''are you crazy'', Teach didn't even hesitate to ask Aokiji, former Marine Admiral to join his Pirate Crew.

Lets not forget Oda said except for SH pirates, he would like to join BB pirates if he was strong as well for a reason.

BB's leadership abilities can't be denied, not only he made the strongest and most violent level 6 prisoners, and Shiryu, (former head jailor of Impel Down) join as his crewmates, he even made a former Marine Admiral join his Pirate crew as well.

Can Luffy match with Teach's leadership abilities?

Luffy's idea of treating his crew as nakama and friends is why Law's alive. Imagine Law took a more BB approach, I don't think Bepo would have saved him.

Luffy all the way.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

I'd say about the same. Both are good leaders in their own ways.

 

[Just a member]

Luffy has his charisma but his main point is being the chosen child who makes even enemies work for him, see Marineford, it is almost talk no jutsu in Naruto (not at that lvl of crap still). Also he is an idiot and any crew under him would be dead in a week due to his decisions. See Kidd without plot armor.

Blackbeard on the other side.... He is cunning, a bastard who will due everything in order to reach his objective. But he is a true pirate, he get where he is thanks to his wits and brain. His crew now feels more alive than even the SH: people who think alike and follow the strongest, smartest bastard among them. He also protects and care about them but with limits. They have no shame in running when there is the need to or sucker punch for the matter. Aokiji fits just wonderfully, even if most likely in the end he will be a spy.

 

[NikaInParis]

Poster boys for the two types of pirates Oda established in his one shots: peace mains and whatever the itger ones were

Peace mains are all about being friends and having fun

The other group is about the classic pirate life

 

[Weeman]

Teach's is more realistic and be applied in the real world for any association or company.

Luffy's is idealistic and hopeful just like the rest of his character, so it becomes endearing anyways.

 

[Erkan12]

Luffy has his charisma but his main point is being the chosen child who makes even enemies work for him, see Marineford, it is almost talk no jutsu in Naruto (not at that lvl of crap still). Also he is an idiot and any crew under him would be dead in a week due to his decisions. See Kidd without plot armor.

Blackbeard on the other side.... He is cunning, a bastard who will due everything in order to reach his objective. But he is a true pirate, he get where he is thanks to his wits and brain. His crew now feels more alive than even the SH: people who think alike and follow the strongest, smartest bastard among them. He also protects and care about them but with limits. They have no shame in running when there is the need to or sucker punch for the matter. Aokiji fits just wonderfully, even if most likely in the end he will be a spy.

Luffy runs all the time, he run from Magellan, and they tried to run from Sentomaru and PX before the time skip but they simply failed. He run after time skip vs Sentomaru and Marines, and his G4 tactic vs Doflamingo and Cracker was running after his time limit, then turn back and fight, he run from Big mom a couple of times after the time skip.

The difference is Luffy fights for his ''weak'' friends he doesn't run when they are involved, while Teach only fights for a price and for his ''strong'' crewmates when he needed to save them, if they are weak, he simply doesn't care about them, Teach also establishes an order and discipline, Teach is also much smarter than Luffy, thats how he was able to control the most dangerous level 6 prisoners, Shiryu and even an Admiral as a leader.

 

[gz89]

while Teach only fights for a price and for his ''strong'' crewmates when he needed to save them

Sabo neg diff Burgess
Hancock neg diff Devon & Vasco
Ace could neg all his crew to the point Teach told them to back off because they are too weak for Ace.
Magellan neg diff the BBP

A really strong crew indeed.

 

[L55]

Blackbeard is not a good leader because s hawk owned him

 

[zenox]

joyboy negs

 

[Erkan12]

Sabo neg diff Burgess
Hancock neg diff Devon & Vasco
Ace could neg all his crew to the point Teach told them to back off because they are too weak for Ace.
Magellan neg diff the BBP

A really strong crew indeed.

Your ZKK brain need a correction, Sabo negged Vice admiral Bastille, not DFless Burgess. Sabo was busy fighting DFless Burgess for a while.

Hancock negged Vice Admiral Yamakaji as well, its a dangerous hax, doesn't prove they are weak.

Ace barehanded beat a Vice admiral, was stronger than Jinbe, was stronger than most of the WB Pirate commanders, Burgess and Augur still didn't reach their prime at that time.

Magellan got negged later by Yami Teach.

Even fodder Yeti brothers negged PostTS Zolo, you forgot?

 

[gz89]

Your ZKK brain need a correction, Sabo negged Vice admiral Bastille, not DFless Burgess. Sabo was busy fighting DFless Burgess for a while.

Hancock negged Vice Admiral Yamakaji as well, its a dangerous hax, doesn't prove they are weak.

Ace barehanded beat a Vice admiral, was stronger than Jinbe, was stronger than most of the WB Pirate commanders, Burgess and Augur still didn't reach their prime at that time.

Magellan got negged later by Yami Teach.

Even fodder Yeti brothers negged PostTS Zolo, you forgot?

Most of the VA are fodders. Only exception is Garp and maybe the Zodiac VAs.
Even Bartolomeo negged one.

Burgess couldnt scratch Sabo.

We dont know if Magellan was defeated by Teach alone but we know Magellan negged him & his crew.

 

[GUI VI]

Joyboy>>>Fatbeard

 

[Erkan12]

Most of the VA are fodders. Only exception is Garp and maybe the Zodiac VAs.
Even Bartolomeo negged one.

Burgess couldnt scratch Sabo.

We dont know if Magellan was defeated by Teach alone but we know Magellan negged him & his crew.

Lanji and most of the SH Pirates gets negged by Hancock as well, we literally see SSnake negging Franky, whats your point that they are not strong?

Even a Vice admiral who can use CoO loses to Hancock's Hax, you expect Vasco and Devon to not fall for it?

DFless Burgess was still > Vice admiral Bastille.

Burgess got stronger.

We know fodder Yeti brothers negged PostTS Zolo, but Zolo never beat Yeti brothers later,

Yami Teach clearly beat Magellan (who else then don't run from the question) and Magellan's equal Shiryu only become underling (not partners) to Yami Teach due to Teach being stronger.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Joyboy>>>Fatbeard

Sadlad.

 

[AmiralTensei]

Definitely Teach.

 

[Herrera95]

Law tells him Luffy is wrong.

Luffy was actually right on that one.

Lets not forget Oda said except for SH pirates, he would like to join BB pirates if he was strong as well for a reason.

They have a harem that's why.

BB's leadership abilities can't be denied, not only he made the strongest and most violent level 6 prisoners, and Shiryu, (former head jailor of Impel Down) join as his crewmates, he even made a former Marine Admiral join his Pirate crew as well.

Can Luffy match with Teach's leadership abilities?

Luffy literally has no leadership skills. He just have charisma and that was enough for Strawhats to follow him. Actually that and the fact he saved many if not all of them. So it's like they are not follow him simply because Luffy recruited or asked they are following him because Luffy had to save them.

From Shiryuu, Aokiji and Impel Down Level 6 prisioners we know pretty well that this is not the case for Teach's crew. They follow him because they really wants to. We don't know about original crew but most likely was the same reason.

 

[Just a member]

Luffy runs all the time, he run from Magellan, and they tried to run from Sentomaru and PX before the time skip but they simply failed. He run after time skip vs Sentomaru and Marines, and his G4 tactic vs Doflamingo and Cracker was running after his time limit, then turn back and fight, he run from Big mom a couple of times after the time skip.

The difference is Luffy fights for his ''weak'' friends he doesn't run when they are involved, while Teach only fights for a price and for his ''strong'' crewmates when he needed to save them, if they are weak, he simply doesn't care about them, Teach also establishes an order and discipline, Teach is also much smarter than Luffy, that is how he was able to control the most dangerous level 6 prisoners, Shiryu and even an Admiral as a leader.

BB running away is not a bad thing for his character, it characterizes him in a way, it is established that if there is something worth to fight for he stays and fights (capture Ace, delve into Impel down, take Moria, enter Amazon lily etc.) but since he is more real than Luffy he stops when he understands he will not have a positive gain if he continues. Unlike Luffy that like you said he sometimes run but most of the time he goes all in in impossible situations and wins only because Oda makes him do so.

In Marineford he was an ant that could have been crushed/one shotted by almost anybody with a name yet Oda made happen ridiculous thing like him escaping Mihawk, tanking Sengoku punch and so on.. vs Kata it was embarrassing to see the level of plot power he get in order to win. Same with Kaido only 100 times worse.... BB feels way more alive than this Mary sue, he is even more likeable than somebody like Shanks with that aura of almost perfection. Maybe it doesn't fit agendas too well but it makes his character stand above the others quality wise, and in the end this is what matters.

Overall I agree on the 2nd part.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Teach is smarter, but he doesnt give a fuck about his crewmates dying or anything.

Luffy is like Shanks or Roger, he'd fight the World Govt for one of his own.

Also Luffy has made a Conqueror follow him.
Only CoC Users can make other CoC Users follow them. Meanwhile, Teach has zero.

 

[Toryu]

Teach is smarter, but he doesnt give a fuck about his crewmates dying or anything.

I disagree Teach is meticulous about whom he recruits, but he has shown already that he will protect his crew.

He wanted to avoid losing them to Boa, he didn't want to use Gura when Aokiji had them freeze.

he is at the very least, no type of villain that treats his core crew as disposable mooks.