Questions & Mysteries Team Gaban or Team Shiki?
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Shiki would be much more exciting imo. He had that 20 year plan or something so he probably knows something or a lot. Oden also talked about 20 years wait etc. iirc
Gaban also knows everything but after Rayleigh and Crocus and Shanks and Oden and Buggy, idk if we want another Roger Pirate at this point.
Gaban also knows everything but after Rayleigh and Crocus and Shanks and Oden and Buggy, idk if we want another Roger Pirate at this point.
Another reason I'd rather shiki over gaban
Realistically what does Gaban bring to the story that we can't get from Rayleigh, or Shanks or Buggy, or any other character who knew Roger or studied the ancient history unless he went on a side quest after the Roger Pirates broke up he brings nothing to the table we can't learn from someone already introduced
Realistically what does Gaban bring to the story that we can't get from Rayleigh, or Shanks or Buggy, or any other character who knew Roger or studied the ancient history unless he went on a side quest after the Roger Pirates broke up he brings nothing to the table we can't learn from someone already introduced
Fair, but at the very least we can learn about his 20 year plan and maybe get more insight on his character and his time during that era also what would of been the point of making Shiki a canon character and saying he was part of rocks if he wasn't gonna be somewhat important later in the story, Oda could of just killed him off or left him non canon
Making Shiki a canon character solves the same problem as did tying Ochoku to Beehive: it allows Oda to explain where all these powerful characters went without having to waste too many panels.
"The Rocks Pirates were all invincible."
"Yeah, where did they go?"
"Well, see that movie for Shiki. BB, Law, and Coby defeated this other guy in an off-panel mini-war. That guy left a treasure that'll complete Buggy's character arc. The rest are tied in some cloning side-plot."
It's a worldbuilding shortcut.
"The Rocks Pirates were all invincible."
"Yeah, where did they go?"
"Well, see that movie for Shiki. BB, Law, and Coby defeated this other guy in an off-panel mini-war. That guy left a treasure that'll complete Buggy's character arc. The rest are tied in some cloning side-plot."
It's a worldbuilding shortcut.
shiki IS canon already...
We literally saw him in god valley, chapter 0, higurashi etc etc
But Strong World cannot be canon. It doesn't fit into the time line. And fresh out of post time skip goofy beating a prominent Rocks pirate is egregious and insane.
Making this character shiki is the exact opposite of that lol.
That means Strong World is either canon, which i already explained is problematic.
Or Strong World never happened. Which is even more insane. As that just completely erases the significance of the movie and the work people put in it. Shueisha ain't about to allow that.
The best way for this to resolve is to make the character someone else entirely. That way, Shiki can be still canon, and Strong World can still enjoy it's pseudo-canon status.
Also, making this character shiki is just shrinking the world of op. There's plenty of characters oda could make it, or even more characters he could create from scratch. But going back to a character that was already defeated in a movie is just lazy as fuck. And raises a lot of issues in the already disastrous canon timeline of op.
We literally saw him in god valley, chapter 0, higurashi etc etc
But Strong World cannot be canon. It doesn't fit into the time line. And fresh out of post time skip goofy beating a prominent Rocks pirate is egregious and insane.
Making this character shiki is the exact opposite of that lol.
That means Strong World is either canon, which i already explained is problematic.
Or Strong World never happened. Which is even more insane. As that just completely erases the significance of the movie and the work people put in it. Shueisha ain't about to allow that.
The best way for this to resolve is to make the character someone else entirely. That way, Shiki can be still canon, and Strong World can still enjoy it's pseudo-canon status.
Also, making this character shiki is just shrinking the world of op. There's plenty of characters oda could make it, or even more characters he could create from scratch. But going back to a character that was already defeated in a movie is just lazy as fuck. And raises a lot of issues in the already disastrous canon timeline of op.
Oh, mind you, I didn't mean that Elbaf Silhouette is Shiki. I was just explaining my two-cents as to why Shiki was given more and more prominence and cameos, including Kaido's hag's face in Wano.
That being said, I still wouldn't put it beyond Oda to show Shiki down the line in the current time, as opposed to a flashback, and then explain in an SBS that the movie isn't canon in this OP timeline.
That being said, I still wouldn't put it beyond Oda to show Shiki down the line in the current time, as opposed to a flashback, and then explain in an SBS that the movie isn't canon in this OP timeline.
