Yeah you didnt address my arguments at all lol.
Whats the argument? They manipulated them by getting the revenge on oden and wano and Kaido did not know how to run business, while trying to start "the world greatest war"
I will close the discussion with this:
After 20 years, who achieved, or was even near, his goal:
Orochi, who broke the samurai so hard they just want to die in battle after they lost all hope, ravaged the country into a wasteland, and pretty much everyone a slave, while accumalting wealth and living every day like he wanted to for 20 years
Or Kaido, whos goal was to start the biggest war and was taken down by some new upstarts and a smaller war than marineford, which in itself was a skirmish according to oda own words?
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