Speculations Technically, Both Admiral And Sword Fans Should Be Excited If It’s Gaban

Gaban = new sword/admiral alliance?


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Y’all ain’t ready for a coalition of Zboys and Admiral fans… it happened before and it was monstrous but at this time around? Nah that alliance would be too OP

but yeah old legends/admirals/sword guys really should all be on the same boat with the great pirates being the enemy always.
 
His mind is still trying to catch up to his df
Its the alcohol that fucked him up.
Y’all ain’t ready for a coalition of Zboys and Admiral fans… it happened before and it was monstrous but at this time around? Nah that alliance would be too OP

but yeah old legends/admirals/sword guys really should all be on the same boat with the great pirates being the enemy always.
The enemy? Its just a manga.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
@Elder Lee Hung if Gaban is confirmed as a peer of Rayleigh I expect you to do your thing about the Zoro = Luffy claims or Zoro > Luffy claims lol.
Rayleigh is definitely pushing Roger to extreme diff. Not even sure how you can argue that after prime Yonko still didn’t want to fuck with the 75 year old iteration of him lmfao. If Gaban is relative to Ray then he’s pushing Roger to extreme as well.
 
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He was shown to be manipulated by the old hag and orochi
He just raged at some point at both, and killed both, without backup plans.
What? When did they manipulate him and he killed Orochi because he was no longer useful as he planned to move Onigashima into the capital and have Yamato be Shogun.
Rayleigh is definitely pushing Roger to extreme diff. Not even sure how you can argue that after anytime Yonko still didn’t want to fuck with the 75 year old iteration of him lmfao. If Gaban is relative to Ray then he’s pushing Roger to extreme as well.
As long as they are below Roger idc lol.
 
What? When did they manipulate him and he killed Orochi because he was no longer useful as he planned to move Onigashima into the capital and have Yamato be Shogun.
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As long as they are below Roger idc lol.
The hag clearly give them the idea for might and orochi was the one running the deals with cp0 and wg
Kaido was the dumb muscle, he even makes the dumb alliance over booze with big momg that his crew think was dumb
Give it up brother you aint convincing me kaido was a smart fella. He is a closer to a luffy type villian than any other
 
The hag clearly give them the idea for might and orochi was the one running the deals with cp0 and wg
Kaido was the dumb muscle, he even makes the dumb alliance over booze with big momg that his crew think was dumb
Give it up brother you aint convincing me kaido was a smart fella. He is a closer to a luffy type villian than any other
Yeah you didnt address my arguments at all lol.
 
Yeah you didnt address my arguments at all lol.
Whats the argument? They manipulated them by getting the revenge on oden and wano and Kaido did not know how to run business, while trying to start "the world greatest war"
I will close the discussion with this:

After 20 years, who achieved, or was even near, his goal:
Orochi, who broke the samurai so hard they just want to die in battle after they lost all hope, ravaged the country into a wasteland, and pretty much everyone a slave, while accumalting wealth and living every day like he wanted to for 20 years
Or Kaido, whos goal was to start the biggest war and was taken down by some new upstarts and a smaller war than marineford, which in itself was a skirmish according to oda own words?

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Y’all ain’t ready for a coalition of Zboys and Admiral fans… it happened before and it was monstrous but at this time around? Nah that alliance would be too OP
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For somebody weak and fodder as kaido yall sure do be feeling insecure about him and his feats
 
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The hag clearly give them the idea for might and orochi was the one running the deals with cp0 and wg
Kaido was the dumb muscle, he even makes the dumb alliance over booze with big momg that his crew think was dumb
Give it up brother you aint convincing me kaido was a smart fella. He is a closer to a luffy type villian than any other
I remember when some people back then thought that Kaido was the mastermind behind Wano's takeover.:suresure:

Turns out that old Kurozumi Hag was the mastermind behind everything.:doffytroll:

Kaido was nothing more than a bodyguard for Orochi.
 
Rayleigh admitted he was weaker then Blackbeard though. Kind of took away from his “humiliation”.

Yamato is a top tier though. Shes very strong idk why people like to put her down.
Meh, he said he wasn't sure he could beat Blackbeard or something. Blackbeard probably doesn't agree and maybe they could have debated it lol. Yamato is hard to say because we haven't really seen her in any other context
 
What? When did they manipulate him and he killed Orochi because he was no longer useful as he planned to move Onigashima into the capital and have Yamato be Shogun.

As long as they are below Roger idc lol.
Orochi was never useful for Kaido, Orochi was a moron who ever samurai hated except for like 3 of them and wanted nothing more then to basically torture everyone in Wano for his childhood, Orochi is the main reason plenty of samurai never worked with Kaido. Kaido wasted an insane amount of money feeding and taking care of samurai in imprisonment that he could have saved by just killing Orochi 28 years earlier
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I think Yonko fans and Luffy fans never cared about Gaban being as strong as Rayleigh its just one fandom that did lol.
My only issue would Gaban being portrayed as significantly above Luffy himself.
 
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