Speculations Technically, Both Admiral And Sword Fans Should Be Excited If It’s Gaban

Gaban = new sword/admiral alliance?


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Orochi was never useful for Kaido, Orochi was a moron who ever samurai hated except for like 3 of them and wanted nothing more then to basically torture everyone in Wano for his childhood, Orochi is the main reason plenty of samurai never worked with Kaido. Kaido wasted an insane amount of money feeding and taking care of samurai in imprisonment that he could have saved by just killing Orochi 28 years earlier
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My only issue would Gaban being portrayed as significantly above Luffy himself.

Orochi needed to exist or else Kaido's crew would be Big Mom level
 
Sword fans dont need an alliance, our agenda is secure, the strongest beyond the strongest, the very very very strongest. Its good if Gaban gets some feats, but those dont upscale or downscale Rayleigh unless we get explicit statements from Gaban hyping Ray up even more. As of now rusty old Ray has successfully stalled an Admiral (Kizaru), scared off a Yonko (BB almost in prime), been compared to a Yonko (Luffy in EH being 100 times stronger than in SA) and compared to PK equal WB as two legends at once by Garp. Rayleighs portrayal is more than secure where Prime Ray is easy Yonko level.

As a Zoro fan (not just sword fan) Ray is only one of the legends who Zoro has some parallels with or whom Zoro is set to surpass. Even in personality Zoro and Ray are not 1:1, even Roger wasnt 1:1 with Luffy until the Oden FB.
 
Sword fans dont need an alliance, our agenda is secure, the strongest beyond the strongest, the very very very strongest. Its good if Gaban gets some feats, but those dont upscale or downscale Rayleigh unless we get explicit statements from Gaban hyping Ray up even more. As of now rusty old Ray has successfully stalled an Admiral (Kizaru), scared off a Yonko (BB almost in prime), been compared to a Yonko (Luffy in EH being 100 times stronger than in SA) and compared to PK equal WB as two legends at once by Garp. Rayleighs portrayal is more than secure where Prime Ray is easy Yonko level.

As a Zoro fan (not just sword fan) Ray is only one of the legends who Zoro has some parallels with or whom Zoro is set to surpass. Even in personality Zoro and Ray are not 1:1, even Roger wasnt 1:1 with Luffy until the Oden FB.
Sword is mid
 
Old ray was out of shape though against Kizaru.
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I think in general this fandom ain't willing to accept that Kizaru looked as good if not better against the Dark King (who had yonko Blackbeard twerk) than Kaido did against Yamato after spreading for over a decade the propaganda that this confrontation was somehow of an anti-feat.
Kaido holds his strength on purpose. He only started going all out post 1037.
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Ngl that was worse than Vista vs Mihawk

What was Oda cooking
No it wasn't :willight:
 
Because we know Old Gaban very likely scales just below Old Rayleigh.

Which means that anything impressive Gaban does should upscale Rayleigh. Just like how sword bros like to leech off of Shanks for Mihawk.

And anything that upscales Old Rayleigh, also upscales Kizaru since they were able to fight one another.

So technically, admiral and sword fans should come together to hype Gaban.
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Mihawk don't need "upscaling" , it's not even an upscale just because you know someone should be able to do something better, their strength is fixed. I know people do it to say "well Mihawk is atleast better than this" like Divine departure n shit, but even that is a pathetic comparison because Divine departure is just a level 1 move essentially anyway.

I mean lets say Scopper blocks an acoc attack, are you gonna use that to say Ray can block it even easier? how do you know that? Scopper could have more raw strength than ray to rely on to block the attack. They can have different strengths. Ray might be more skilled where Scopper is like the burgess of their trio.

But Ray has been retired this whole time and is rusty, he said so himself, hadn't used his sword in a long time, whereas someone like Garp has continually been in active service despite his old age.

Copper doesn't rust over time. For all we know Scopper could have been more active than Ray all this time, keeping himself sharp, maybe even keeping up with training all this time. If that's the case Scopper might even be stronger than Rayleigh right now (not even might, he defo would be). Ray being retired while Scopper is essentially acting as a guardian of Elbaph or some shit.

What was that quote of the explorer when it showed that sillhouette? to not stay in elbaph for too long? isn't that exactly what Gaban has been doing?

So no, you can't use whatever scopper does to upscale Ray, especially if you're ignoring potential context.
 
Because we know Old Gaban very likely scales just below Old Rayleigh.

Which means that anything impressive Gaban does should upscale Rayleigh. Just like how sword bros like to leech off of Shanks for Mihawk.

And anything that upscales Old Rayleigh, also upscales Kizaru since they were able to fight one another.

So technically, admiral and sword fans should come together to hype Gaban.
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Dude has been dropping crazy accurate takes lately. :shocked:
 
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