Speculations The 1% Man

[Charlotte Horchata]

nah, if he knew it was Kaido he would probably change his side already. but Zoro is indeed wasted potential to be 1%.

Hawkins changing sides isn't what would make it interesting but the actual idea of such monster known for his immortality getting such prediction; not only in terms of how others would react, but also how Kaido himself.

Seriously, it's basic storytelling. Oda established Kaido's "immortality" and his ideals on death, yet when he had the chance to explore this construct with Hawkins predicting his odds of dying, he completely wasted it. Makes no sense for anybody who's familiar with both reading and creating stories.

 

[Herrera95]

Hawkins changing sides isn't what would make it interesting but the actual idea of such monster known for his immortality getting such prediction; not only in terms of how others would react, but also how Kaido himself.

Seriously, it's basic storytelling. Oda established Kaido's "immortality" and his ideals on death, yet when he had the chance to explore this construct with Hawkins predicting his odds of dying, he completely wasted it. Makes no sense for anybody who's familiar with both reading and creating stories.

You are right, Kaido being told to be the 1% man would be interesting because no one would think that about him. But as the other guy said if that was true Hawkins would already change sides.

 

[Finalbeta]

You are right, Kaido being told to be the 1% man would be interesting because no one would think that about him. But as the other guy said if that was true Hawkins would already change sides.

1% until Zoro comes in and puts him to his 0

 

[mugiwalaw]

Hawkins changing sides isn't what would make it interesting but the actual idea of such monster known for his immortality getting such prediction; not only in terms of how others would react, but also how Kaido himself.

Seriously, it's basic storytelling. Oda established Kaido's "immortality" and his ideals on death, yet when he had the chance to explore this construct with Hawkins predicting his odds of dying, he completely wasted it. Makes no sense for anybody who's familiar with both reading and creating stories.

its not about whether its interesting or not bro.

Hawkins relies that much with his card and that would be stupid if he knew Kaido is about to die but not changing his side, because he is not original Beast Pirate, and joined because he feared Kaido.

Drake even suggesting him to change his side before.

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

its not about whether its interesting or not bro.

Hawkins relies that much with his card and that would be stupid if he knew Kaido is about to die but not changing his side, because he is not original Beast Pirate, and joined because he feared Kaido.

Drake even suggesting him to change his side before.

Hawkins is so traumatized by the emperors that he even denies any possibility of defeating them during his speech to Killer; where you see stupidity in him not changing sides, I see just another wasted opportunity to make him so utterly afraid of them and having interiorized the idea of the "untouchable emperors" to the point of sticking to Kaido's victory in spite of the 1% chance; that's a very powerful narrative.

I mean, I know everything you can say about this; doesn't change that Oda had every opportunity to write something interesting and chose the kind of path people with no creative instinct would choose. But yeah, certainly what we want to read is Hawkins following his predictions until he's dead instead of playing with the narrative power of such predictions and his personality to reinforce the imagery of the emperors while exploring Kaido's psyche by facing him with an unexpected yet incoming death.

But why would anybody prefer an interesting story that makes actual use of its cards if we can read the average.

You are right, Kaido being told to be the 1% man would be interesting because no one would think that about him. But as the other guy said if that was true Hawkins would already change sides.

Not really, it's easy to conceive an exciting alternative; check above. The very idea of everybody expecting Hawkins to change sides only for it to never happen because of how scared he's of the emperors and its imagery as unbeatable monsters (like a corruption of people's faith on Luffy always fighting the odds) is exactly why my idea would work and give us something way more interesting than irrelevant Drake being the 1% man and Hawkins just losing like any other Beast Pirate.

 

[BleakAsh]

So I'm a big hate of Anime changing things from Manga and even trying to spoil things that didn't happened yet or would never happen. Some of them we can't proof anime was wrong like the stupid shadow being Yamato on early raid and other things will change anime's story forever and will never be the same story of manga like Roger getting BM's Red Ponegyph by FORCE(ridiculous).

But I have faith that Oda will land a HUGE BLOW on anime by revealing the true 1% man which is not X-Drake that anime told to be.

This man is and always was ZORO.

Some of you already know that I'm a Zoro DEEP fan and that I will try menta gymnatisc with manga to make my point.

BUT

Read carefully the whole Onigashima Raid.

It started 2 weeks ago when the final trainning was made. Luffy learning ACoA and Zoro taming Enma. Enma. The NERF sword that can kill it own user by just sucking haki. This is a huge flag for Zoro being dead.
Then we have Rooftop Fight where Kaido and Big Mom together show us the STRONGEST ATTACK on verse! And guess what? Zoro is the ONLY one stepping up to block it. He may have died if Law didn't saved him with shambles. Again, another huge flag for Zoro's death.
Finally we have Zoro taking a magic pill that has also a huge drawback of doubling all the damage he took during it effect. Zoro had a difficult battle against King, even more difficult because of ENMA(the nerf sword). Some haters saying he fainted post-fight but I know he is only tired because of Enma effects. Anyway the pill effects still left to hit, which means... Zoro will probably be at his worst condition when that happen. One more time, a huge flag of being dead.

Yet, Zoro is surviving all those flags. Although Luffy also have some flags the amount of plot armor Oda putted on him doesn't allow us to think he will die. and Sanji also has one but that's only to fit his power up.

If we look back at One Piece history. Zoro and Luffy are the most one facing death in front of them. And we already discarted Luffy as being the 1% man while X-Drake doesn't have any huge flag. Even though that he got defeated by CP-0 it seems they simply left him alive to chase Robin/Apoo.

So that's it guys. Zoro was always the 1% man of One Piece.

we may disagree on things.. and just so you know even tho what you said here makes sense to an extent I'm in a unknown wagon on this topic.. but appreciate ya coming out a saying this a core fella Z boi..

i'd recommend this theory that reinforces and adds an interesting twist to your conclusion

here

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

So I'm a big hate of Anime changing things from Manga and even trying to spoil things that didn't happened yet or would never happen. Some of them we can't proof anime was wrong like the stupid shadow being Yamato on early raid and other things will change anime's story forever and will never be the same story of manga like Roger getting BM's Red Ponegyph by FORCE(ridiculous).

But I have faith that Oda will land a HUGE BLOW on anime by revealing the true 1% man which is not X-Drake that anime told to be.

This man is and always was ZORO.

Some of you already know that I'm a Zoro DEEP fan and that I will try menta gymnatisc with manga to make my point.

BUT

Read carefully the whole Onigashima Raid.

It started 2 weeks ago when the final trainning was made. Luffy learning ACoA and Zoro taming Enma. Enma. The NERF sword that can kill it own user by just sucking haki. This is a huge flag for Zoro being dead.
Then we have Rooftop Fight where Kaido and Big Mom together show us the STRONGEST ATTACK on verse! And guess what? Zoro is the ONLY one stepping up to block it. He may have died if Law didn't saved him with shambles. Again, another huge flag for Zoro's death.
Finally we have Zoro taking a magic pill that has also a huge drawback of doubling all the damage he took during it effect. Zoro had a difficult battle against King, even more difficult because of ENMA(the nerf sword). Some haters saying he fainted post-fight but I know he is only tired because of Enma effects. Anyway the pill effects still left to hit, which means... Zoro will probably be at his worst condition when that happen. One more time, a huge flag of being dead.

Yet, Zoro is surviving all those flags. Although Luffy also have some flags the amount of plot armor Oda putted on him doesn't allow us to think he will die. and Sanji also has one but that's only to fit his power up.

If we look back at One Piece history. Zoro and Luffy are the most one facing death in front of them. And we already discarted Luffy as being the 1% man while X-Drake doesn't have any huge flag. Even though that he got defeated by CP-0 it seems they simply left him alive to chase Robin/Apoo.

So that's it guys. Zoro was always the 1% man of One Piece.

Hawkins already gave us the chances of both Luffy and Zoro being alive within the next month is 19%

 

[Finalbeta]

Hawkins already gave us the chances of both Luffy and Zoro being alive within the next month is 19%

Oda is so magical at turning those few odds into reality.

 

[Herrera95]

Hawkins already gave us the chances of both Luffy and Zoro being alive within the next month is 19%

Again, odds changes. He can't predict the future. Just look at Hawkins checking predictions over and over about Luffy running from Marineford. He is trying many times getting different results but never 0% of chance of dying.

Hawkins predicted them living in Wano. Now they are INVADING an enemy base.
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Not really, it's easy to conceive an exciting alternative; check above. The very idea of everybody expecting Hawkins to change sides only for it to never happen because of how scared he's of the emperors and its imagery as unbeatable monsters (like a corruption of people's faith on Luffy always fighting the odds) is exactly why my idea would work and give us something way more interesting than irrelevant Drake being the 1% man and Hawkins just losing like any other Beast Pirate.

Sorry I never saw Hawkins showing any emotion. He seems like a robot only doing logic choices based on his the chances it shows at his cards.

Pretty sure if Odds turns against Yonkos he would change sides. Maybe they losing is not the most important metric here but what are the odds of Hawkins SURVIVING teaming up with Alliance or continuing with Yonkos?

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Sorry I never saw Hawkins showing any emotion. He seems like a robot only doing logic choices based on his the chances it shows at his cards.

Pretty sure if Odds turns against Yonkos he would change sides. Maybe they losing is not the most important metric here but what are the odds of Hawkins SURVIVING teaming up with Alliance or continuing with Yonkos?

He was visually terrified at the imagery of the emperors being unbeatable. "There is no way to beat them", "now you know why they've ruled the sea for so long", "you must have felt it in your biological instincts"... Does this sound like a "robot only doing logic choices"? No, it doesn't, which is why Killer explicitly confronts him on getting too emotional and fearing dying too much to oppose Kaido, even though he's regretting his decision of betraying the alliance.

Hawkins isn't a robot who only obeys the chances from his cards. He's a coward man completely terrified by the concept of "emperor"; in opposition, Kid challenges this legend this last chapter by assuring that nobody is invincible. Oda depicting a scenario in which Hawkins doesn't betray Kaido even if he has a 99% chance of dying would not only fit the character (the real character, not the facade you described) but would have been significantly more interesting than anything he chose to close his prediction subplot with.

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

Again, odds changes. He can't predict the future. Just look at Hawkins checking predictions over and over about Luffy running from Marineford. He is trying many times getting different results but never 0% of chance of dying.

Hawkins predicted them living in Wano. Now they are INVADING an enemy base.

Just wanted to mention it since you didn't add it in your post.
"Hawkins predicted them living in Wano. Now they are INVADING an enemy base."
And no that is incorrect he predicted their chances living within the next month and 2 weeks passed by then so who knows maybe its not even going to happen in Wano.

 

[Herrera95]

Just wanted to mention it since you didn't add it in your post.
"Hawkins predicted them living in Wano. Now they are INVADING an enemy base."
And no that is incorrect he predicted their chances living within the next month and 2 weeks passed by then so who knows maybe its not even going to happen in Wano.

Is not difficult to understand that odds changes. Holy shit... He is calculating odds, chances, math. He is not predicting the future. If new elements comes in the numbers are changed.
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He was visually terrified at the imagery of the emperors being unbeatable. "There is no way to beat them", "now you know why they've ruled the sea for so long", "you must have felt it in your biological instincts"... Does this sound like a "robot only doing logic choices"? No, it doesn't, which is why Killer explicitly confronts him on getting too emotional and fearing dying too much to oppose Kaido, even though he's regretting his decision of betraying the alliance.

Hawkins isn't a robot who only obeys the chances from his cards. He's a coward man completely terrified by the concept of "emperor"; in opposition, Kid challenges this legend this last chapter by assuring that nobody is invincible. Oda depicting a scenario in which Hawkins doesn't betray Kaido even if he has a 99% chance of dying would not only fit the character (the real character, not the facade you described) but would have been significantly more interesting than anything he chose to close his prediction subplot with.

Tell me the chapter, tell me the panel. And yes does speechs are from a robotm he is stating the obvious there is no chance against Yonkos. BM just beated Law and Kid. Kaido beated Luffy numerous times. If Oda wasn't the writer they would all be dead already.

 

[์Natthawat]

Hawkins already gave us the chances of both Luffy and Zoro being alive within the next month is 19%

Tama was born on 1 March which is the day that Luffy comes to wano.

That means Fire Festival happen on 14 March.

So there are still 2 weeks left.

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

Is not difficult to understand that odds changes. Holy shit... He is calculating odds, chances, math. He is not predicting the future. If new elements comes in the numbers are changed.

Oh that is true. I think i made a mistake misreading your point here.

 

[Herrera95]

Tama was born on 1 March which is the day that Luffy comes to wano.

That means Fire Festival happen on 14 March.

So there are still 2 weeks left.

Festival is March 15th.

And there is easier ways to do that math.

 

[mugiwalaw]

Hawkins is so traumatized by the emperors that he even denies any possibility of defeating them during his speech to Killer; where you see stupidity in him not changing sides, I see just another wasted opportunity to make him so utterly afraid of them and having interiorized the idea of the "untouchable emperors" to the point of sticking to Kaido's victory in spite of the 1% chance; that's a very powerful narrative.

I mean, I know everything you can say about this; doesn't change that Oda had every opportunity to write something interesting and chose the kind of path people with no creative instinct would choose. But yeah, certainly what we want to read is Hawkins following his predictions until he's dead instead of playing with the narrative power of such predictions and his personality to reinforce the imagery of the emperors while exploring Kaido's psyche by facing him with an unexpected yet incoming death.

But why would anybody prefer an interesting story that makes actual use of its cards if we can read the average.

you can say whatever you want thinking the people who dont believe Kadio is 1% to be uncreative people but no, Hawkins always follow the possobility of his cards because thats what make him a freaking fortune teller. even at the last time he used his cards against Killer, which is "the tower" that make him shocked but he still couldnt deny the cards

compared to Kaido, 1% narative to be Drake is more creative and interesting path, Kaido losing in this arc is predictable bacuse thats obvious for the reader.

 

[Finalbeta]

Didn't the Festival already start? 🤔

 

[Herrera95]

compared to Kaido, 1% narative to be Drake is more creative and interesting path, Kaido losing in this arc is predictable bacuse thats obvious for the reader.

Kaido being the 1% man is much more deep than X-Drake. Kaido is the main villain, power house that one-shotted Luffy and can only be hurt by ACoA or ACoC. Even then he can tank too much. It is insane to think this man that was told to suicide for hobby has even 1% chance of dying.

X-Drake... no one cares about him. Literally. Nothing special so we could theorize his importance in this arc, because he hasn't any.

 

[mugiwalaw]

Kaido being the 1% man is much more deep than X-Drake. Kaido is the main villain, power house that one-shotted Luffy and can only be hurt by ACoA or ACoC. Even then he can tank too much. It is insane to think this man that was told to suicide for hobby has even 1% chance of dying.

X-Drake... no one cares about him. Literally. Nothing special so we could theorize his importance in this arc, because he hasn't any.

the context that he meant is to make the story more interesting.

Kaido is expected to go down this arc, thats not really surprising. meanwhile, if the 1% indeed Drake, it would mean that his story has more potential to be expanded when we thought he's gonna die but the miracle happens that make him survives.

 

[Herrera95]

the context that he meant is to make the story more interesting.

Kaido is expected to go down this arc, thats not really surprising. meanwhile, if the 1% indeed Drake, it would mean that his story has more potential to be expanded when we thought he's gonna die but the miracle happens that make him survives.

Again, no reason to believe Kaido will go down just because they are here for it. Strawhats take L's sometimes and there is much time since the last L. Maybe this is the perfect time for another one.

And one more time, no one cares about X-Drake. There is nothing special on him. He being the 1% man is just wasted plot.