Powers & Abilities The ability to negate the regeneration/immortality is not Haki

[Dragon777]

I like this idea, simple but interesting... Only a few knows about Imu's existence...



Yeah, it's highly unlikely that only Luffy and the Wings are the only SHs who will fight GKs once they are part of the main objective... All active SHs participated in the fight against the main guys during their first fight against a Shichibukai crew (as a target), against a CP group (as a target), and against a Yonko crew (as a target)... Imu's main forces are the main rivals during the main confrontation which might be the final war so they all must have a counter at that point...

Exaclty.

Outside the Rev Commanders, I really don't see who else but the mugi should fight them.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Clearly not. Or is super basic.

The Holy Knights are the Tobi Roppo of the WG: they are going to be beaten "even" by EoS Chopper, Brook or Usopp, alone the Rev commanders and such. Most of mugis don't even have basic CoA, let alone some fancy advanced technique.

The weakness of the regen is going to be something that even Chopper (who is going to learn it right now) or Brook need to be able to use.

Or it could just be haki and Oda will give the mid and weak hats haki training before the final war.

This is logical, the scabbards had ACoA while 1.5 bil Luffy didn’t. Haki does not have a 1 to 1 correlation with powerlevel.

Oda could even do a mini time skip after laugh tale to justify it.

 

[Dragon777]

Or it could just be haki and Oda will give the mid and weak hats haki training before the final war.

This is logical, the scabbards had ACoA while 1.5 bil Luffy didn’t. Haki does not have a 1 to 1 correlation with powerlevel.

Oda could even do a mini time skip after laugh tale to justify it.

Mugis having haki Is possibile and logical; Mugi having some incredibly rare or advanced techinque, It Isn't though.

As I said, It could be haki, as long as It Is super basic.

 

[L57]

Or it could just be haki and Oda will give the mid and weak hats haki training before the final war.

This is logical, the scabbards had ACoA while 1.5 bil Luffy didn’t. Haki does not have a 1 to 1 correlation with powerlevel.

Oda could even do a mini time skip after laugh tale to justify it.

The sh wont fight the holy knights that s revos job

 

[comrade]

Anything other than Haki would be oddly specific as a counter to their regeneration. Especially since Gaban doesn't seem to have other supernatural powers or Haki. "Love" being the counter would be silly, ngl.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Mugis having haki Is possibile and logical; Mugi having some incredibly rare or advanced techinque, It Isn't though.

As I said, It could be haki, as long as It Is super basic.

Rare is not the same thing as advanced

The CDs have absolute control over the world and have purged information that is harmful to their regime. Info the Roger Pirates uncovered in their journey.

It is conceivable that the secret to damaging CDs is both basic and rare at the same time, since CDs would have naturally suppressed knowledge of their weaknesses.

 

[Desolate Smaug]

chopper is going to figure a scientific way of bypassing the regen. Kinda like how salt was being used on moria Zombies. I think though the top fighters will continue to use haki to suppress the regen.

 

[Max]

FS is a meme.
So far every confirmed FS user got caught off guard.
Shanks even by a low tier mountain bandit.

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Or you need to have been "marked".

But the idea of CoO coating is really weird to me. CoA and CoC were always offensive powers, but CoO is supposed to be a passive power designed for defense only. It makes you able to perceive people/things, not hurt them.

It'd make more sense if an advanced CoO application would just allow users to target opponents more accurately with CoA/CoC or something like that. Like perceive something about their essence/soul/aura or whatever. But it shouldn't be an offensive power.

 

[MegaSpider]

Chopper will create a "Haki drug" for the crew. This way the weaker strawhats can temporarily gain haki.

 

[Dragon777]

Rare is not the same thing as advanced

The CDs have absolute control over the world and have purged information that is harmful to their regime. Info the Roger Pirates uncovered in their journey.

It is conceivable that the secret to damaging CDs is both basic and rare at the same time, since CDs would have naturally suppressed knowledge of their weaknesses.

That could be. As long as It Is something "easy" to learn, however hidden/forgotten, It can be.

 

[trav]

But the idea of CoO coating is really weird to me.

the idea of CoC coating is weird too.
I also was not fully serious.

 

[NAMELESS]

If the weakness is so easy then it would have been a pointless ability to introduce. It’s probably haki-related and only the M3/Loki could pull it off right now. Maybe the HKs were never meant to be SH villains, they still have Seraphims and marines to gang up on. Or they can cut off Imu’s immortality itself then they can start beating the HKs. The final fight can be a dragged on fight until somebody finally negates the source (Imu).

They definetily are not. The revolutinaires exist for that reason. It is probably a COA penetration thing. Sabo displayed that in Dressrosa alongside some Dragon martial art. Revs probably fight like that.

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If the weakness is so easy then it would have been a pointless ability to introduce. It’s probably haki-related and only the M3/Loki could pull it off right now. Maybe the HKs were never meant to be SH villains, they still have Seraphims and marines to gang up on. Or they can cut off Imu’s immortality itself then they can start beating the HKs. The final fight can be a dragged on fight until somebody finally negates the source (Imu).

They definitely are not. The revolutinaires exist for that reason. It is probably a COA penetration thing. Sabo displayed that in Dressrosa alongside some Dragon martial art. Revs probably fight like that. Straw hats will probably fight fodder vice admirals.

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If the weakness is so easy then it would have been a pointless ability to introduce. It’s probably haki-related and only the M3/Loki could pull it off right now. Maybe the HKs were never meant to be SH villains, they still have Seraphims and marines to gang up on. Or they can cut off Imu’s immortality itself then they can start beating the HKs. The final fight can be a dragged on fight until somebody finally negates the source (Imu).

They definitely are not. The revolutinaires exist for that reason. It is probably a COA penetration thing. Sabo displayed that in Dressrosa alongside some Dragon martial art. Revs probably fight like that. Straw hats will probably fight fodder vice admirals.

Chopper’s purpose right now could just be saving Gaban then passing on the info to the heavy hitters. I mean let’s wait and see, it could be revealed the next chapter.

You are thinking lowly of the ability since high-tiers have it, which is a faulty perception. Remember that people will still struggle with this regen against the Gorosei and Imu, regardless of having intel.

The “temporary solution” is already a difficult thing to pull off — we needed a legendary Roger pirate to be the first one to demonstrate it. The actual and permanent solution will be another level to the problem. You likely would need to shut down the source of it.

Permanent solution is probably killing Imu.

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Or it could just be haki and Oda will give the mid and weak hats haki training before the final war.

This is logical, the scabbards had ACoA while 1.5 bil Luffy didn’t. Haki does not have a 1 to 1 correlation with powerlevel.

Oda could even do a mini time skip after laugh tale to justify it.

Training that requires another big timeskip would be odd, considering that the point of the 3D2Y is to make them prepared in the NW setup... We had lots of small timeskip since post-Dressrosa arc and they are surrounded by Haki users and Vegapunk on those timeskips and Oda already missed those opportunities to make the SHs learn how to "bloom" their Haki...

Although I agree that knowing how to use one's Haki per se is not correlated to powerlevel... I mean, lots of fodders in the NW knows how... But it's an essential tool in the NW in order to increase hit points by the user and decrease damage points taken by the user when facing big shots... A recent example would be Robin getting hurt a lot by the thorns just because she can't use CoA to coat herself which should have reduced the damage she's getting (if Oda handled Haki in the crew way better since TS, it would have been Robin's cue to awaken ACoA)...

Mugis having haki Is possibile and logical; Mugi having some incredibly rare or advanced techinque, It Isn't though.

As I said, It could be haki, as long as It Is super basic.

Doesn't have to be super basic if it's Haki, a SH-exclusive learning isn't new to the crew... But again, it is likely not Haki-related since the crew will have difficulty to learn that usage right away even if they awaken their Haki...

Chopper will create a "Haki drug" for the crew. This way the weaker strawhats can temporarily gain haki.

That would be odd... Haki is willpower-related...