Powers & Abilities The actual ultimate thread on swordsmanship - Part 1

The issue is you are trying to dig too deep into it. When in the end there is nothing there. You will see with time how it does not matter just like how it didn't matter with the colors.
I don't think so because when you remove a Sword from someone hands and they can replicate the exact same AdCoC no touch feat without it.. Then the Blade is useless in that instance.. You can't cut someone with your hand the same as a Blade, you can't create lethal slicing air slash with your hand the same as a Blade.. But you can create an identical attack where a Blade is irrelevant with your fist or a Blade with a no touch AdCoC blow..
 
I don't think so because when you remove a Sword from someone hands and they can replicate the exact same AdCoC no touch feat without it.. Then the Blade is useless in that instance..
That's based off of IRL logic

In OP-verse, how you're wielding the sword, the skills of how you swing it, how you generate pressure, the quality (weight, hardness, grade, power) of sword, etc, are all big part of Swordsmanship and will massively affect the output.

The sharpness is just a part of it. Not all of it.
 
I don't think so because when you remove a Sword from someone hands and they can replicate the exact same AdCoC no touch feat without it.. Then the Blade is useless in that instance.. You can't cut someone with your hand the same as a Blade, you can't create lethal slicing air slash with your hand the same as a Blade.. But you can create an identical attack where a Blade is irrelevant with your fist or a Blade with a no touch AdCoC blow..
So when gaban tells Zoro his Coc is leaking and to use it more consciously . What does that mean for a swordless Zoro then you idiot ?
 
In OP-verse, how you're wielding the sword, the skills of how you swing it, how you generate pressure, the quality (weight, hardness, grade, power) of sword, etc, are all big part of Swordsmanship and will massively affect the output.
Yeah but all that is irrelevant with no touch AdCoC clash..

So when gaban tells Zoro his Coc is leaking and to use it more consciously . What does that mean for a swordless Zoro then you idiot ?
I don't get it.. Zoro isn't Swordless..
 
This is where you are wrong

there are swordsmen who happened to eat a DF, but it doesn't mean them using DF is swordsmanship
Fujitora doesn't summon meteor with swordsmanship

If you can't do an attack with just a sword and haki, then it's not swordsmanship, it's just DF boosted swordsmanship.
u can say the same abt brook , he summons ice from hell through his devil fruit

but thats still accounted as swordsmanship
" observe the freezing blade "


speaking of brook , he literally stated music to be a sword skill

" witness my skill with the blade " he says right before stringing his guitar

all he did was string his guitar with his sword , the attack didnt even come through that
it came from his guitar

u can say the same abt fujitora's meteor strikes

he uses his sword to activate the gravitational pull ( stringing the guitar )

the devil fruit then brings a meteor down ( the guitar )

the meteor reigns down as an attack completely different from a blade move ( music in this case )


yet its presented as a sword skill , as ridiculous as it might be .
 
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u can say the same abt brook , he summons ice from hell through his devil fruit

but thats still accounted as swordsmanship
" observe the freezing blade "


speaking of brook , he literally stated music to be a sword skill

" witness my skill with the blade " he says right before stringing his guitar

all he did was string his guitar with his sword , the attack didnt even come through that
it came from his guitar

u can say the same abt fujitora's meteor strikes

he uses his sword to activate the gravitational pull ( stringing the guitar )

the devil fruit then brings a meteor down ( the guitar )

the meteor reigns down as an attack completely different from a blade move ( music in this case )


yet its presented as a sword skill , as ridiculous as it might be .
Any attack channeled through a sword is swordsmanship

This includes Shockwaves, music, freeze, gravity, Cerberus …literally anything

OP swordsmanship isn’t limited to real life line swordsmanship, it comes with gimmicks to make it less boring and more diversified
 
You said fighters who use adv Coc can drop the sword and use a bat . Zoro has adv Coc as said by the manga an d gaban most recently . So what will happen when he uses it with no sword?
Then nothing would change for Zoro.. But he doesn't have AdCoC so.. The manga never said Zoro has AdCoC..

It's not. All of those things are applied just the same. It's just that instead of a no touch cut, it's a no touch explosion.
In Rocks case i don't know, but AdCoC no touch clash it renders any Sword Skill useless because the same exact thing can be executed with a Kanabo or Bare Fist..
 
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