General & Others The admirals are not Sakazuki’s all star equivalent

[Etzel Andergast]

Would be a good point if Lucci didn’t immediately get up after the fight like it was nothing.

I'm talking about enies lobby

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I'm talking about enies lobby

I’m talking about in recent memory where Luffy hasn’t had a solid win in the new world
Caesar - Usopp was the one who captured him
Doffy - Nerfed heavily by Law
Cracker - Nerfed by Nami
Katakuri - Self Nerfed for no reason
Kaido - Nerfed after fighting a gauntlet
Kizaru - Was never even defeated

Luffy needs an actual W in the new world

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

No one ever denied that Ray is stronger than Gaban. The point is that Gaban is only a little weaker than Ray, who was Yonko level, so Gaban certainly isn’t YC1 level

Rayleigh is an exceptional case where the #2 is close to the captain. Benn has been implied to be this exceptional case. Zoro surpassing Mihawk means he'll be this exceptional case.

Katakuri - Self Nerfed for no reason

Katakuri self-nerfed because his hit on Luffy with his trident was unearned.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Rayleigh is an exceptional case where the #2 is close to the captain. Benn has been implied to be this exceptional case. Zoro surpassing Mihawk means he'll be this exceptional case.



Katakuri self-nerfed because his hit on Luffy with his trident was unearned.

He also was fine beating Luffy without letting Luffy use his full power at the beginning of the fight. Oda massively changed Katakuris character during the fight to give Luffy a chance to win.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

The admirals are Imu’s subordinates subordinates subordinates subordinates.

they aren’t Allie’s

They aren’t Imu’s direct subordinates. They don’t even know Imu exists.

Most of the marines seem to be marines, not because they actually like CDs, but because they hate pirates.

Imu’s existence violates the world’s greatest taboo. Nobody is supposed to be king of the world. The only reason the marines would side with him is because the other side, Luffy’s side, is full of pirates.

 

[Kiiro]

Luffy already mid diffed Lizaru lol

 

[Dragon777]

I don’t think there was ever a moment where Kizaru seemed comparable to the other two. Even in Marineford, Oda had Marco and Jozu be shown comparable and when Jozu went up against Kuzan he lost an arm and was defeated badly but Kizaru couldn’t do the same for Marco.

@Sir Yasheen

btw:

 

[Sir Yasheen]

@Sir Yasheen

btw:

He’s literally referring to the enclosed drawing someone made guessing what Kizaru looked like which you for some reason cropped out?

 

[Dragon777]

He’s literally referring to the enclosed drawing someone made guessing what Kizaru looked like which you for some reason cropped out?

"Kizaru and Akainu are even stronger than Aokiji?'"

Oda: "you are not that far off"

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(this is on top of the rest btw)

 

[Sir Yasheen]

"Kizaru and Akainu are even stronger than Aokiji?'"

Oda: "you are not that far off"

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Again, The enclosed question came with a drawing of what the person thought Kizaru looked like… and Oda was making fun of the drawing and said “actually you’re not that far off.”

Or do you think Oda talking about Zoro and Sanjis dick fight should also be brought up as power scaling evidence?

 

[Dragon777]

Again, The enclosed question came with a drawing of what the person thought Kizaru looked like… and Oda was making fun of the drawing and said “actually you’re not that far off.”

Or do you think Oda talking about Zoro and Sanjis dick fight should also be brought up as power scaling evidence?

Then again, did you see the literal question or are you just trying to say whatever to mudding the water?

"Kizaru and Akainu are even stronger than Aokiji?'"

The fan simply sent a drawing of Kizaru (the volumes come out after the actual chapters, months after, so Kizaru had already been a thing for months) and along with his drawing, he asked if Kizaru (and Akainu) were even stronger than Aokiji, at which Oda replied:

" You are not that far off"

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Then again, did you see the literal question or are you just trying to say whatever to mudding the water?



The fan simply sent a drawing of Kizaru (the volumes come out after the actual chapters, months after, so Kizaru had already been a thing for months) and along with his drawing, he asked if Kizaru (and Akainu) were even stronger than Aokiji, at which Oda replied:

Oda never answers the question, you can’t take one sentence out of context and say this is what he meant, when literally the entire discussion, Oda is replying to the picture:
“What is this???? Kizaru??? Jeez I’m going to have nightmares! Sorry, he’s already appeared, he’s showing up in the Next volume! You’re not that far off though.”

Literally the entire answer is him talking about the fucking picture and the questioners thought of what Kizaru may look like. The SBS questions are asked well before the volumes are released meaning this question was sent in well before Kizaru appeared since Kizaru appears like 3 months after the chapter this is in.

If you’re taking Oda jokingly responding to a drawing as a power scaling answer then dude that’s some serious power scaling brain rot.

 

[Dragon777]

Oda never answers the question, you can’t take one sentence out of context and say this is what he meant, when literally the entire discussion, Oda is replying to the picture:
“What is this???? Kizaru??? Jeez I’m going to have nightmares! Sorry, he’s already appeared, he’s showing up in the Next volume! You’re not that far off though.”

Literally the entire answer is him talking about the fucking picture and the questioners thought of what Kizaru may look like. The SBS questions are asked well before the volumes are released meaning this question was sent in well before Kizaru appeared since Kizaru appears like 3 months after the chapter this is in.

If you’re taking Oda jokingly responding to a drawing as a power scaling answer then dude that’s some serious power scaling brain rot.

Then dude, you have some serious coping problems. Chill out. It happens to be wrong and we even find Oda's words on that; stop.

Literal question:

"Kizaru and Akainu are even stronger than Aokiji?'"

Whit an attached drawing.

Oda talks about the drawing and then said:

"Anyway, You are not that far off"

He literally used "anyway" to separate what he was saying about the attached drawing and the answer to the question, which he replayed to. That's for the " Oda is replying to the picture".

And this was just the end of it, Oda's own words, but we have already brought plenty of other proofs.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Then dude, you have some serious coping problems. Chill out. It happens to be wrong and we even find Oda's words on that; stop.

Literal question:

Whit an attached drawing.

Oda talks about the drawing and then said:

He literally used "anyway" to separate what he was saying about the attached drawing and the answer to the question, which he replayed to. That's for the " Oda is replying to the picture".

And this was just the end of it, Oda's own words, but we have already brought plenty of other proofs.

He used actually… like actually that pictures not that far off though not anyways.

As I said, you’re trying to use an out of context sentence, from a joke Oda made on an SBS as powerscaling proof, and your evidence is even a misquote from the out of context sentence… powerscaling brainrot.

 

[Dragon777]

He used actually… like actually that pictures not that far off though not anyways.

As I said, you’re trying to use an out of context sentence, from a joke Oda made on an SBS as powerscaling proof, and your evidence is even a misquote from the out of context sentence… powerscaling brainrot.

Then It's really braindead cope.
Sigh.

Literally the question: "Is he stronger?"; answer "blah blah and actually you are not that far off".
WG user: "nah, out of context".

And this on top of all the rest.
Really agenda Is like faith.

P.S.
Ture, he said "actually". Same meaning anyway.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Then It's really braindead cope.
Sigh.

Literally question: "Is he stronger?"; answer "you are not that far off".
WG user: "nah, out of context".

And this on top of all the rest.
Really agenda Is like faith.

P.S.
Ture, he said "actually". Same meaning anyway.

It’s very much not the same meaning. Dude you clearly just saw this screenshot from like Reddit, didn’t check the context of the answer and now just digging your heels in…

 

[JoNdule]

Kuzan isn't above Kizaru

 

[Dragon777]

It’s very much not the same meaning. Dude you clearly just saw this screenshot from like Reddit, didn’t check the context of the answer and now just digging your heels in…

Tbh, It's becoming too much imho.

The question Is crystal clear, the reader attached a drawing and you are using the fact that the drawing was attached to It (a thing that I didn't share becuase It was irrelevant) to somehow erase the fact that at the end of It Oda still answered the question about who was stronger.
That's It.

But we are not getting anywhere.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

"Not that far off" could refer to Akainu being stronger but not necessarily Kizaru. Akainu would go on to defeat Aokiji in a duel, but it took days for it to reach a conclusion.

 

[Dragon777]

"Not that far off" could refer to Akainu being stronger but not necessarily Kizaru. Akainu would go on to defeat Aokiji in a duel, but it took days for it to reach a conclusion.

If he whole answer wasn't centered on Kizaru, I would have agreed.

Kuzan > Kizaru btw, Just their are not in different tiers.