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Ace is definitely above King and queen
Just like King was above Jack due to card names
Also he is Kaido son, shown last and will have CoC, he is important
Introduced at an important event/moment like how Kata, Oden, Ray were all introduced.

Joker is wild card, he can bea near king or queen or jack, but not above Ace.
Like how Pero is wild card, a commander level dude

Kaido has Ace and Joker
WB had Oden and Ace (died as high tier)
Kaido Jr is Oden, Conquerors, strongest fighters
King is Marco.
Joker is Ace, wild cards... surely same level as other commanders but below Oden/Kaido Jr
Queen is Jozu
Jack is Vista
Its remind me Bullet is canon. ı trust you ndule-sama.
 
So Apoo has a lower rank than the flying six? The flying six are clearly just below the Calamities in rank
The numbers look like a bunch of big animal-like creatures probably the original inhabitants of Onigashima, so I doubt they are that strong or have strong human fighters in their ranks
We have hawkin who are just a headliner unlike drake who is part of flying six so i dont surprised if apo have much more rank aside powerlevel than those 2 considering he join kaido early and he betray them....and Even though they are animal like creatures they surely must have rank among them if my theory is right the numbers consist of card no which from 2-10 while jack queen and king are for calamities and ace is belong to kaido son....
 
Be cautious guys. Just because Ace is confirm to exist does automatically means that he's the strongest, remember that a joker is supposed to be even stronger than an ace. Ace's importance could possibly rather come from the fact that he's Kaido's son and so the heir of his crew and empire.
I am not saying that he's weak and he could turn out to be even stronger than the Calamities, but I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to not be that strong.
well, if he is Kaidou's own son, it is hard to see or imagine him not being on commander level atleast......
 
Be cautious guys. Just because Ace is confirm to exist does automatically means that he's the strongest, remember that a joker is supposed to be even stronger than an ace. Ace's importance could possibly rather come from the fact that he's Kaido's son and so the heir of his crew and empire.
I am not saying that he's weak and he could turn out to be even stronger than the Calamities, but I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to not be that strong.
The card Joker hasn't really must do with powerlvl. It was in orginal words just Kaido joker to make his army stronger. Taking out Joker make Kaido as the player weaker. In that case the card Joker is behind Jack/Queen/King.

Seeing the card ranking, Ace come first and then King and Queen. He could easily use a card ranking without King and Queen.
In my opinion it gonna said in the chapter that Ace gonna be the vicecaptain of the Beast pirates.
 
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Must really praise your words back then.
I remember you even call this before anyone here, you was overall right.
I can see King having 1.3-1-4B bounty and is equal to Queen though, which make the paring for the battle more fit with King vs Zoro and Queen vs Sanji. The question is now who gonna face Ace then? I expect Ace having a bounty above 1.5B to make clear that he takes off a step above King and Queen. Can even see he beeing low top tier if he face Luffy later.
Let's continue privately. These guys will come try debunk me with no real arguments again

Ace might have 1.5B + symbolic to have Luffy surpass him and make Kaido vs Luffy more dramatic

Like me and some user said, Oda is creating these Yonko Sons to have Luffy surpass them and be ready for Yonko in the future 1 v1

Ace 500M bounty is symbolic for Luffy to surpass
Kata 1B bounty was symbolic for Luffy to surpass
Kaido Jr or Ace might have 1.5 B or 2 B
Oden and Ray will fill 2/3B mark
Shanks 4 B bounty & WB 5 B
Roger has 5.5 B , luffy will have 5.6

You can see a mark, is a way for Oda to say where each Character ranks powerwise too , milestones for Luffy
I already made a thread, people still calls me names cause they simply cant see what is Oda is doing with numbers and PLs
 
Ace 500M bounty is symbolic for Luffy to surpass
Kata 1B bounty was symbolic for Luffy to surpass
Kaido Jr or Ace might have 1.5 B or 2 B
Oden and Ray will fill 2/3B mark
Shanks 4 B bounty & WB 5 B
Roger has 5.5 B , luffy will have 5.6
Make overall sense.
Surpassing Kata who was standing on the top of the high high tiers was Luffy first step to beeing come near to Yonkou lvl.
Surpassing Kaido Jr who probably stand as solid low top tier is Luffy next stage. Overall it make more sense.
 
well, if he is Kaidou's own son, it is hard to see or imagine him not being on commander level atleast......
Possible but since there are only three Calamities, that it's them who have always been described as Kaido's seconds in the crew and strongest fighters and that Ace has never been mentionned or hinted before, and knowing how Oda likes to subvert our expectations I have a strange feeling about this.
I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be a rebel or a slacker who has the potential to become as strong as his father but who doesn't exploit it or who refuses to take part in the crew operations out of rebellion or lazyness.
 
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