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Enma is clearly special and not just as a training tool. Now it does also operate as a training tool as a side effect, but the sword itself allows the wielder to do things they couldn’t without it.
To the best I can tell it uses the wielder’s own Haki but it allows them access to more of their Haki than they would normally be able to produce without it.
I don’t understand why Zoro fans are so against Enma being a power up. It obviously is. It doesn’t make Zoro any lesser, in fact it’s still huge feat for him to be able to wield this sword that would likely kill a lesser swordsman for trying.
Zoro fans and Sanji fans are both in denial about Enma and the RS. If Enma wasn’t special it wouldn’t be hyped as the only sword to ever scar Kaido. And it’s crazy because it isn’t a knock on either of them yet people try to make it so.
To the best I can tell it uses the wielder’s own Haki but it allows them access to more of their Haki than they would normally be able to produce without it.
I don’t understand why Zoro fans are so against Enma being a power up. It obviously is. It doesn’t make Zoro any lesser, in fact it’s still huge feat for him to be able to wield this sword that would likely kill a lesser swordsman for trying.
Zoro fans and Sanji fans are both in denial about Enma and the RS. If Enma wasn’t special it wouldn’t be hyped as the only sword to ever scar Kaido. And it’s crazy because it isn’t a knock on either of them yet people try to make it so.
Make 0% sense. Enma not power up its replacement of shisui. Only thing enma sucking ryoru and release more than it needed.
Also everytechniq is zoros own technqs he used with enma if he had shisui will do same thing more than enma.
While it shisui Blackblade kaido at least get his arm cuted with ashura :cheers:
Then why are BM, Kaido and Zoro saying those things about Enma?
It’s Zoro’s haki but since he couldn’t do that with his haki without Enma that makes it a power up. He is literally more powerful because of Enma which is the definition of a power up.
Saying Enma isn’t a huge part of why Zoro is such a threat to Kaido is either dishonesty or denial.
It’s Zoro’s haki but since he couldn’t do that with his haki without Enma that makes it a power up. He is literally more powerful because of Enma which is the definition of a power up.
Saying Enma isn’t a huge part of why Zoro is such a threat to Kaido is either dishonesty or denial.
You don't even know if it is his strongest attack, Marco was dodging Queen's laser beams willingly, he even showed to worry more about Queen than King
And yet Queen's full Zoan headbutt "Brachio Bomber" could easily make her turn into useless in the war just with one hit on her head, this is similar to her, a Devil Fruit user, Natural Born destroyer, drowning for an hour in the sea. Yeah, thats a pretty damn "weak" attack to me
Where did you Zoro hardcore stans brought up the idea that Big Mom becomes fodder when she lost her memory? She may become dumb, but she isn't weak by any means, actually WCI Hunger Pangs Mode is not the same as Olin mode. Which character can match her casual punches with such ease? She was able to do more than Marco with 2 named attacks and clean hits, after Big Mom put much more effort against Queen or even against Ulti and Page One than ANY Supernova until now.
Queen wasn't even knocked out, lol, just chilling
And yet Queen's full Zoan headbutt "Brachio Bomber" could easily make her turn into useless in the war just with one hit on her head, this is similar to her, a Devil Fruit user, Natural Born destroyer, drowning for an hour in the sea. Yeah, thats a pretty damn "weak" attack to me
Where did you Zoro hardcore stans brought up the idea that Big Mom becomes fodder when she lost her memory? She may become dumb, but she isn't weak by any means, actually WCI Hunger Pangs Mode is not the same as Olin mode. Which character can match her casual punches with such ease? She was able to do more than Marco with 2 named attacks and clean hits, after Big Mom put much more effort against Queen or even against Ulti and Page One than ANY Supernova until now.
Queen wasn't even knocked out, lol, just chilling
All the Rooftop 5 are not above YC1, We know Luffy is forsure, likely Zoro given Sanjis performance against Queen without a suit. Law and Kidd I have no clue honestly their YC1 At Best until proven otherwise. And Killer is definitely not above YC1, im not even sure if Killer is commander level at this point.
Im not underestimating anything, Doflamingo was likely YC2/YC3 too, he was just a bad matchup for Sanjis fighting style. If you put Sanji up against YC2 without the hax string abilities he probably would have faired much better in retrospect.
Im not underestimating anything, Doflamingo was likely YC2/YC3 too, he was just a bad matchup for Sanjis fighting style. If you put Sanji up against YC2 without the hax string abilities he probably would have faired much better in retrospect.
I think you can safely throw Zoro in the forsure camp was well. Kidd should be based on portrayal even if he doesn’t yet have the feats for it. Law should also be above YC1 imo, but he’s definitely below Zoro and Luffy. If Kidd & Law are really suppose to hold BM by themselves and possibly defeat her, I think that puts them safely above YC1 because we saw what Kaido did to fresh out of Wano ~ YC1 Luffy.
And idk what Killer did to wrong you but he’s forsure commander level after having a rather impressive showing against Kaido. I don’t believe a veteran level character could replicate those feats and it also wouldn’t make sense for Oda to include him up there if he’s that far below everyone else. Not to mention a veteran level character couldn’t have held his own against Zoro especially not without his ideal weapons.
I have Doffy at YC2+/YC1- but I absolutely agree on the Sanji take.
And idk what Killer did to wrong you but he’s forsure commander level after having a rather impressive showing against Kaido. I don’t believe a veteran level character could replicate those feats and it also wouldn’t make sense for Oda to include him up there if he’s that far below everyone else. Not to mention a veteran level character couldn’t have held his own against Zoro especially not without his ideal weapons.
I have Doffy at YC2+/YC1- but I absolutely agree on the Sanji take.
No Killer is not Commander level forsure because nothing He did on the roof was any different from what the scabbards accomplished, and yes I absolutely believe One of the Tobi Roppo could do what killer did on the roof, Hell theres Tobi Roppo that could do what Kidd did on the roof I only give Kidd the benefit of a doubt because of portrayal reasons. If im looking at things objectively These Characters did not do any relevant damage to Kaido. The performance of Kidd and Killer on the roof was really not tht impressive in retrospect.
No Killer is not Commander level forsure because nothing He did on the roof was any different from what the scabbards accomplished, and yes I absolutely believe One of the Tobi Roppo could do what killer did on the roof, Hell theres Tobi Roppo that could do what Kidd did on the roof I only give Kidd the benefit of a doubt because of portrayal reasons. If im looking at things objectively These Characters did not do any relevant damage to Kaido. The performance of Kidd and Killer on the roof was really not tht impressive in retrospect.
Does it make sense for Killer to be >>>>> everyone else on the roof to you? That would be an odd choice for Oda to have 4 of the roof fighters be legit and then the 5th to be veteran level. If Kaido and BM would have singled him out as not belonging I would get it.
Some of the Scabbards are apparently YC level (Inu, Neku, Asura, and likely Denjiro). We’ve seen 3 of them against Jack, and Inu looks like Jack’s 1v1.
By portrayal Killer should at least be relative to Sanji.
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